A few basketball accomplishments that only MJ has

[And1AllDay]

Your biggest knock on MJ's career is that he lost the 8 vs. 1 matchup twice, the worst odds in sports, while averaging 36/6/7 with 2.5 spg and 1.5 bpg?

Okay.. ... So you think he's goat then..

Or...Maybe get a better seed? Jesus man

[bigkingsfan]

Or losing in round 2 vs winning it all.

They lost in the 2nd round when he came back.

[3ball]

LeBron led an absolute trash supporting cast to 66 wins

Give MJ the 09 Cavs and he struggles to make the playoffs

So why didn't the Cavs win 66 the previous year in 2008, when they barely won 45, or 21 games less?

[SouBeachTalents]

They lost in the 2nd round when he came back.

In fewer games too

[And1AllDay]

So why didn't the Cavs win 66 the previous year in 2008, when they barely won 45, or 21 games less?

Your jumping around. Stop it. Jordan had scrub teams and went 1-9 with 3x 1st round exits while Bron was making the playoffs and NEVER lost in the 1st round.

Accept that, let it sink in. No Pip, no chip.

[Akrazotile]

All time leader in parents slain by gambling creditors.


****ING FIGHT ME.

[3ball]

Or...Maybe get a better seed? Jesus man

That would've required peak Wilt numbers..

Jordan's 37/5/5 won 42 games, while lebron won 66 with only 28/8/7

So lebron's better cast made up the big gap.

And Lebron himself achieved the 9 seed in 2005 with 27/7/7 and also the Eastern Conference all-star center on his team - so that's pretty bad.... And surely if he got the 8 seed instead, he gets swept by the champion Pistons just like the Spurs did to his 2 seed in 07'...

Which brings up the point - lebron gets swept with 2 seed, (07'), 4 seed (18'), and record loss with 1 seed (14'), but ur knocking MJ for losing with the 8 seed...
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[Gus Hemmingway]

yeah he's got the glooming 1-9 one

[3ball]

yeah he's got the glooming 1-9 one

MJ's sweeps as the 8 seed are better than lebron's sweeps as the 2 seed, (07'), 4 seed (18'), and record loss with 1 seed (14')

in b4... "B-b-but it's not better to lose in an earlier round!!!!"

Going further isn't the issue because MJ went further than lebron - he was 6/6 as 1 and 2 seeds, while lebron lost 3 times with the 1 seed (09-11'), swept with a 2 seed (07'), and had record loss as a 1 seed (14')

So ur cherry-picking when you compare lebron's high seeds to MJ's low seeds - mj had many seasons as high seeds too, and went further than lebron with them

[TheCorporation]

That would've required peak Wilt numbers..

Jordan's 37/5/5 won 42 games, while lebron won 66 with only 28/8/7

So lebron's better cast made up the big gap.

And Lebron himself achieved the 9 seed in 2005 with 27/7/7 and also the Eastern Conference all-star center on his team - so that's pretty bad.... And surely if he got the 8 seed instead, he gets swept by the champion Pistons just like the Spurs did to his 2 seed in 07'...

Which brings up the point - lebron gets swept with 2 seed, (07'), 4 seed (18'), and record loss with 1 seed (14'), but ur knocking MJ for losing with the 8 seed...
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So Jordan is basically Westbrook. Hmm, alrighty then.

[SouBeachTalents]

MJ's sweeps as the 8 seed are better than lebron's sweeps as the 2 seed, (07'), 4 seed (18'), and record loss with 1 seed (14')

in b4... "B-b-but it's not better to lose in an earlier round!!!!"

Going further isn't the issue because MJ went further with his high seeds than lebron - he was 6/6 as 1 and 2 seeds, while lebron was upset 3 times with the 1 seed (09-11'), swept with a 2 seed (07'), and had record loss as a 1 seed (14')

So ur cherry-picking when you compare lebron's high seeds to MJ's low seeds -j had many seasons as high seeds too, and went further than lebron with them

Miami wasn't the 1 seed in 2011 or '14

[3ball]

Miami wasn't the 1 seed in 2011 or '14

You guys like to compare lebron's high seeds to MJ's 8 seeds, and then say "see, lebron went further, 1-9"

But Lebron never had below a 4 seed in the playoffs, and MJ went much further anytime he had a 4 seed or better - MJ never lost with 1 and 2 seeds... 6/6.... Whereas lebron lost twice with 1 seeds (09 and 10'), and also had goat upset with 2 seed (11'), record loss with 2 seed (14'), and another sweep with a 2 seed (07')... Whew...

Btw, although lebron never had a low seed in the playoffs, he did have a 9 seed in 2005 with 27/7/7 and also the Eastern Conference all-star center on his team - so that's pretty bad.... And surely if he got the 8 seed instead, he gets swept by the champion Pistons just like the Spurs did to his 2 seed in 07'...

[SpaceJam]

Only top 10 player to make the playoffs with a disgustingly trash 30-52 record

[Uncle Drew]

Only top 10 player to make the playoffs with a disgustingly trash 30-52 record

Are we sure he's a top 10 player though?

[TheCorporation]

Only top 10 player to make the playoffs with a disgustingly trash 30-52 record

Don't forget that Jordan leads all top 10 players with most 1st round exits, too