LeBron's Vertical Revealed

[3ball]

you have not actually shown a non misleading picture of Jordan head at rim level. show just one picture that show jordan head clearly 6 inches over rim. stop posting the same picture that is obvious misleading because of perspective

there is actual picture that shows lebron 6 + inches over rim, no for michael

The picture shows Jordan's mouth is close enough to the rim to kiss it... so there is no room for camera deception, just like the picture where Lebron is reaching up with one hand and his head is ALSO close enough to kiss the rim - no room for camera deception there either.

The camera deception logic only comes into play when there is DISTANCE in between the player and the rim (like the OTHER Lebron play where is he corralling the rebound)....

This is factual and not arguable - the camera deception only comes into play when there is DISTANCE between the player and the rim, not when the player is close enough to kiss the rim.. period... So the 46-48 inch verticals for Jordan and Lebron shown in those pics is legit.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'm actually with dubeta on this particular case. MJ 40 max imo.

Don't really care. Your opinions flip flop, change, and you both troll daily. At some point it is factual MJ was measured with a 48 inch vertical. He's clearly in the 40+ range. LeBron as well.

[abuC]

So people really believe Jordan had a higher vertical than James White, Gerald Green and DJ Stephens?

[iznogood]

The picture shows Jordan's mouth is close enough to the rim to kiss it... so there is no room for camera deception, just like the picture where Lebron is reaching up with one hand and his head is ALSO close enough to kiss the rim - no room for camera deception there either.

The camera deception logic only comes into play when there is DISTANCE in between the player and the rim (like the OTHER Lebron play where is he corralling the rebound)....

This is factual and not arguable - the camera deception only comes into play when there is DISTANCE between the player and the rim, not when the player is close enough to kiss the rim.. period... So the 46-48 inch verticals for Jordan and Lebron shown in those pics is legit.

You are wrong, clearly there is some distance between his head and the rim, otherwise he'd hit the rim. The distance might be small, but it is and it's important. Therefore angles matter.

[3ball]

So people really believe Jordan had a higher vertical than James White, Gerald Green and DJ Stephens?

Most guys don't jump as high for the test as they do in a game.

The max vert test is the interesting-looking contraption and a lot of players don't try their hardest when doing the test out of embarrassment or awkwardness... Also, some just don't jump as high in such a setting where they are trying to hit the highest marker on a contraption.

Some guys specifically practice for the test and do their absolute best on it (cody zeller), which can make it look like they can jump better than other guys that actually DO jump higher, but half-a**ed or were tentative doing the test.. this happens a lot.

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron head level while leaning back

[ThickassGlasses]

Those are "standing verticals" not "true verticals." If a player runs and jumps 48" are you really going to say it didn't truly happen and scoff that they ran first?

That's not a true vertical jump, every way a vertical jump is measured is from a standing position, not with a gather.

So yes, if you come up to me and show me a running 40 inch vertical, I will tell you that is not a vertical jump.

[3ball]

Lebron head level while leaning back

Just like Jordan is on his FT-line dunk (actually, i think Jordan's head is even higher, but anyway).

For Lebron, head-level means a 40-inch vertical for Lebron (10 feet minus 6 feet 8 inches).... and in other pictures where Lebron's head is ABOVE the rim, he is clearly jumping HIGHER than 40 inches.

For Jordan, head-level is 42 inches (10 feet minus 6 feet 6 inches)... and of course it would be more than that when his head is above the rim.

math is math.
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[eliteballer]

Stop posting angles below the rim. They make guys look higher than they are.

[3ball]

Stop posting angles below the rim. They make guys look higher than they are.

so the angles from below the rim (where the camera shoots upward) overstates the elevation, yet the downward angle shot where Jordan mouth is close enough to kiss the rim ALSO makes him look higher?

the angles are fine... they can't be good for lebron but somehow bad for jordan.

[eliteballer]

so the angles from below the rim (where the camera shoots upward) overstates the elevation, yet the downward angle shot where Jordan mouth is close enough to kiss the rim ALSO makes him look higher?

the angles are fine... they can't be good for lebron but somehow bad for jordan.

The angle your using is even worse.......waaay above the rim and waaay to one side.

Are you kidding me? There's two reasons you could be repeatedly using it:

1. You're too stupid to know otherwise
2. You know it's junk but keep posting it hoping to convince people jordan is jumping higher than he is...which would be truly pathetic because it won't change reality, just convince a couple of dudes on a message board.

[Hoopz2332]

[navy]

Stop posting Lebron we already have video confirmation he can reach 40.3 inches.

[abuC]

Most guys don't jump as high for the test as they do in a game.

The max vert test is the interesting-looking contraption and a lot of players don't try their hardest when doing the test out of embarrassment or awkwardness... Also, some just don't jump as high in such a setting where they are trying to hit the highest marker on a contraption.

Some guys specifically practice for the test and do their absolute best on it (cody zeller), which can make it look like they can jump better than other guys that actually DO jump higher, but half-a**ed or were tentative doing the test.. this happens a lot.

These are 44+ verticals

DJ Stephens - 6'5" (46" vertical at the combine)




Gerald Green 6'8"




James White 6'7"



Show me one picture of Jordan close to any of these guys, in all of his career the only thing you're posting is 1 dunk from an elevated angle above the rim where it's impossible to tell how high he was.

[3ball]

These are 44+ verticals

DJ Stephens - 6'5" (46" vertical at the combine)




Gerald Green 6'8"



James White 6'7"



Show me one picture of Jordan close to any of these guys, in all of his career the only thing you're posting is 1 dunk from an elevated angle above the rim where it's impossible to tell how high he was.

THOSE are very high quality pictures... We need that quality for Jordan's kiss-the-rim alley oop.