Durant vs. LeBron 5 years into career

[Frozen1]

You guys say that they are close, i say they aren't.

Lebron has the same scoring averages as durant, but instead of 3 APG, he has 7APG, and that's a huge difference. Durant has a luxury that only now Lebron have, pad his FG% only shooting on makable shots.

Lebron had to carry a bunch of scrubs, and Durant in his first 5 years played with another two stars and top 10 nba playes. All these factors contribute on stats.

[lebeast666]

KD first 6 years:

[Chuckbrook]

Thread title has "Durant vs. LeBron" in it. How can you possibly be surprised?

Besides, this is ISH. Someone can make a thread titled "Carmelo Anthony will win the scoring title this year," and suddenly there will be 50 out of 150 posts arguing that LeBron could win one easily while Durant might lose this year because of "Chuckle Chuckbrook."

[lilgodfather1]

Bird is not a good defender wow nice info...

He routinely guarded the weakest offensive forward on the opposite team. His limited amount of defensive team selections agrees with me. I didn't say he was terrible, he just wasn't good at it until later in his career.

[LeBird]

Bird was worse towards the end of his career because of his injuries. Bird was one of the best team defenders in the league and good to very good man-to-man depending which years you're talking about.

[tazb]

and 6 mvps with 1 ring.. Whoa thats a great accomplishment man

Yeah cause we can predict the future.

[lilgodfather1]

Bird was worse towards the end of his career because of his injuries. Bird was one of the best team defenders in the league and good to very good man-to-man depending which years you're talking about.

Yes injuries certainly took their toll on Bird. The type of problems he had would take their toll on anybody though. I wonder if Medical care has developed to the point that they could have fixed Bird's back? Imagine if he could have came back at 80%, and played 3 or 4 more years at that level, instead of coming back at 60%, and being in too much pain to play. If that had happened I don't think LeBron would have a very good shot at passing him, and the GOAT discussion wouldn't be so one sided. Can't change the past though, unfortunately.

[dh144498]

You guys say that they are close, i say they aren't.

Lebron has the same scoring averages as durant, but instead of 3 APG, he has 7APG, and that's a huge difference. Durant has a luxury that only now Lebron have, pad his FG% only shooting on makable shots.

Lebron had to carry a bunch of scrubs, and Durant in his first 5 years played with another two stars and top 10 nba playes. All these factors contribute on stats.

that's exactly what Lebron does. His primary concern is to protect his FG%.

[knicksman]

You forgot the most important stat OP

Impact:

LeBron: >9000
Durant: Depends how good Westbrook is playing

/thread.

Thats why on their first 6 years, durant is more successful??

Durant first 6 years already made the finals while lebron didnt unless you count the time when the east was so weak. And if lebron didnt teamed up with wade/bosh, durant would have a ring by now while lebron wouldnt have any finals appearance.

[Lebron23]

Thats why on their first 6 years, durant is more successful??

Durant first 6 years already made the finals while lebron didnt unless you count the time when the east was so weak. And if lebron didnt teamed up with wade/bosh, durant would have a ring by now while lebron wouldnt have any finals appearance.

LeBron already won an MVP Award in his 6th NBA Season. He also averaged 38-9-9 againts the Orlando Magic in the playoffs with Mo Williams as his 2nd scoring option.

LBJ will be a 4x NBA MVP, and 2x NBA Finals MVP at the end of this season.

[knicksman]

LeBron already won an MVP Award in his 6th NBA Season. He also averaged 38-9-9 againts the Orlando Magic in the playoffs with Mo Williams as his 2nd scoring option.

LBJ will be a 4x NBA MVP, and 2x NBA Finals MVP at the end of this season.

Who cares about mvps? The fact is he didnt get out of the east. LBJ will be 4x mvp and 2x nba finals mvp but 0.5 ring still

[Lebron23]

Who cares about mvps? The fact is he didnt get out of the east. LBJ will be 4x mvp and 2x nba finals mvp but 0.5 ring still

The Orlando Magic were just a better playoffs team than LeBron's Cavaliers. They were hitting their outside shots in Conference Finals. Rashard Lewis also failed the drug test in the off season.

And LeBron will have the same number of championships as the Knicks.

[knicksman]

The Orlando Magic were just a better playoffs team than LeBron's Cavaliers. They were hitting their outside shots in Conference Finals. Rashard Lewis also failed the drug test in the off season.

And LeBron will have the same number of championships as the Knicks.

excuses excuses .,.

[knicksman]

It's not similar to Magic/Bird at all. LeBron is closer to Magic, and Bird than Durant is skill set wise. Bird was all around great (well except on D), and Magic was the best passer ever at his position. Durant is a great scorer. His best comparison would be a great scorer, but not much more. Can't say Jordan because Jordan was also a good passer, can't say Bird because again Bird was a great passer. It'd be insulting to Durant to compare him to Gervin.

Anyways back to the task at hand. Bird/Magic was special. They competed for titles nearly every year of their career, and they dominated the NBA. LeBron/Durant isn't really like that at this point. They've competed for one title, and LeBron is the only one truly dominating the NBA at this point. Durant can score like few others, but winning the scoring title is not much more than a novelty if you're not winning titles, and MVPs.

This could very well go down as a 7 x MVP, 4 x FMVP, vs. a 2 x MVP, 2 x FMVP. If that were the case, people wouldn't think it was an argument. One guy is going to end up as the only guy in the 30k/10k/10k club, and the other is going to end up as one of the handful in the 30,000 point club.

durant was the scorer version of magic. Magic is the pure pg while durant is the pure scorer. Same with jordan. Look at the stats of 2nd 3 peat jordan, his stats are almost the same with durant who only managed 4 apg. Yet his team is performing much better by winning 72 and 69

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron from 2004 - 2008 is clearly the better player. And this was before LeBron started playing legit 1st team caliber defense (2011) ... after 2008, the difference between them as players becomes even more apparent.