Al Qaeda's big meeting

[LoPro4u2c]

Unsettling video shows large al Qaeda meeting in Yemen
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[OhNoTimNoSho]

bullshit


they arent gonna do shit

[9erempiree]

If there was a time to bomb them. It was the time.

[Akrazotile]

It's ok you guys.


"Obama got bin Laden." I remember that was a really important talking point around election time.


So I think everything is ok.

[LoPro4u2c]

It's ok you guys.


"Obama got bin Laden." I remember that was a really important talking point around election time.


So I think everything is ok.

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...alaysiameeting

Here's the last time Al Qaeda had a meeting The Americans didn't know about.

[KevinNYC]

Actually Al Qaeda has been losing power for a while now.

Many analysts now believe that Al Qaeda under Ayman al-Zawahiri is no longer the premiere jihadi network worldwide. Zawahiri was never as popular as Bin Laden and he's having trouble keeping the group together. There's a big fracture happening in the jihadi world.

ISIS which used to be Al Qaeda in Iraq is no longer under Zawahiri's control and group after group is sided with ISIS

While there is much we don't know about the current size and operational status of AQC, there is ample evidence that the top-down command structure -- with Zawahiri's organization on top of the pyramid -- is, at a minimum, under tremendous pressure.
We can debate whether it has completely collapsed, whether it is severely damaged, whether it is still hanging on, and whether it might mount a comeback, but the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that control of al Qaeda's affiliates is slipping out of Zawahiri's hands. This weekend's disavowal of ISIS by AQC is only the most recent and explicit example.
We sometimes talk about al Qaeda and its affiliates as if this structure has a clear precedent, deep roots, and a long history of cohesion. In fact, the "affiliate program" was barely off the ground before cracks began to form. Al Qaeda in Iraq, and its leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, went off the rails almost immediately, and AQC tried -- futilely -- to rein him in through private correspondence, which was captured in Iraq and Afghanistan and later published by the U.S. government. The conflict was only resolved with Zarqawi's death in 2006.
Today, Zawahiri has indisputably lost control of AQI, now known as ISIS. In June, ISIS tried to take control of al Qaeda's official affiliate in Syria, Jabhat al Nusra. When Zawahiri came down in support of the powerful newcomer, ISIS openly defied him, with its emir posting a video online explicitly rejecting the order to confine its activities to Iraq.

This has led fighting among jihadi groups in Syria. And now groups are having to decide who to be loyal to.

[KevinNYC]

The problem for the old Al Qaeda is the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is proving himself much more attractive to the new generation of fighters and the thing that Al Qaeda central used to have to influence other groups, money is pretty much gone.

I suspect if the Al Qaeda itself released this video, it was intended as a show of power to influence groups who have yet to declare their allegiance.

[KevinNYC]

Here's the recent headlines for ISIS fighting Al Nusra, which is the official Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria.

Bloody battles between Nusra and ISIS

ISIS seizes town from Nusra in Hassakeh province


Islamists face off in Syria; dozens killed
al Qaeda splinter group fights al Qaeda-backed group

Rival Islamist factions battled each other for a second straight day in eastern Syria on Friday -- a fight that so far has killed 68 militants, a Britain-based Syrian opposition group said.

The clashes in a desert of Syria's Deir Ezzor province near the Iraqi border are part of a war within a war -- Islamist groups fighting each other for supremacy even as they oppose, in Syria's larger civil war, the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The latest fighting between the al Qaeda splinter group Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other Islamist battalions -- including the al Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front -- began in that area Thursday, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said....

...in February, al-Nusra Front demanded that ISIS leave Syria. Intra-rebel fighting has killed more than 3,300 people since the start of this year, according to the observatory.

[unbreakable]

fearmongering BS..

them dudes aint ever stepping foot in my block.

[LoPro4u2c]

Actually Al Qaeda has been losing power for a while now.

Many analysts now believe that Al Qaeda under Ayman al-Zawahiri is no longer the premiere jihadi network worldwide. Zawahiri was never as popular as Bin Laden and he's having trouble keeping the group together. There's a big fracture happening in the jihadi world.

ISIS which used to be Al Qaeda in Iraq is no longer under Zawahiri's control and group after group is sided with ISIS


This has led fighting among jihadi groups in Syria. And now groups are having to decide who to be loyal to.

They don't like Al-Zawahiri because he's Egyptian. Not to mention the fact most of the al qaeda members with top level crap were Egyptian. That's why they ain't listening to Al-Zawahiri. Those Egyptians weren't even Al Qaeda back then. They were Egyptian Islamic Jihad. The ISIS are probably remnants of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan who obeyed Bin Laden but really don't give a crap about Zawahiri's vision.

[Derka]

*yawn*

[KevinNYC]

They don't like Al-Zawahiri because he's Egyptian. Not to mention the fact most of the al qaeda members with top level crap were Egyptian. That's why they ain't listening to Al-Zawahiri. Those Egyptians weren't even Al Qaeda back then. They were Egyptian Islamic Jihad. The ISIS are probably remnants of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan who obeyed Bin Laden but really don't give a crap about Zawahiri's vision.

They don't like al-Zawahiri because he's a dick. Bin Laden has the quiet-spoken rich kid who gave up wealth to wage jihad was a much more inspiring figure and much easier to get along with.

I don't think the Egyptian thing matters so much. The Yemenis and Saudis are still loyal to Zawahiri. ISIS is not from Afghanistan, but from Iraq, it's the remnants of Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq group that ended up being denounced by Al Qaeda central. The current leader and the previous were had the name of al-Baghdadi or the one from Baghdad.

[KevinNYC]

From three years ago

An irritable micromanager disliked by even the organization’s most loyal foot soldiers – it’s not the sort of description you’d expect to hear of the mastermind of a global terrorist network.

But that is precisely the description that intelligence analysts tend to give of Ayman al-Zawahiri, the new head of Al Qaeda.

Not only is he widely believed to be a less-than-effective manager, US officials say, Mr. Zawahiri does not have the sort of “peculiar charisma” that Osama bin Laden did, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told reporters last week.

[russwest0]

It's ok you guys.


"Obama got bin Laden." I remember that was a really important talking point around election time.


So I think everything is ok.

[KevinNYC]

The problem for the old Al Qaeda is the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is proving himself much more attractive to the new generation of fighters and the thing that Al Qaeda central used to have to influence other groups, money is pretty much gone.

I suspect if the Al Qaeda itself released this video, it was intended as a show of power to influence groups who have yet to declare their allegiance.

There was another al-Zawahiri tape released today.
A guy I follow on Twitter who studies Jihadis forums on forums and social media says both of the videos were leaked which is not a show of strength for Al Qaeda.

The issue here is it's the second unsanctioned leak of a major {Al Qaeda Central} video in the last month. Key media folk are going ISIS.