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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    What impresses you, then?

    Thats like a typical game for him and he's been playing out of position all season...only a handful of players in the NBA could do that.
    If that was a typical game for him, you wouldn't be making a thread about it. Guy is averaging 16/4/4 Who gives a flying **** about him?

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    What impresses you, then?

    Thats like a typical game for him and he's been playing out of position all season...only a handful of players in the NBA could do that.
    There are 16 other players that average 16.7, 3.9, 3.6, including Kobe.

    Kobe.

    Dude has a PER of 17.

    He's not an all-star. Not even close.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    There are 16 other players that average 16.7, 3.9, 3.6, including Kobe.

    Kobe.

    Dude has a PER of 17.

    He's not an all-star. Not even close.
    Way to ignore percentages, winning, and defense. It's obvious you don't watch him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerOO
    If that was a typical game for him, you wouldn't be making a thread about it. Guy is averaging 16/4/4 Who gives a flying **** about him?
    On absolutely elite FG%. The only people who don't understand how elite he is are causal fans and fools.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Please stop making threads about him everyday. We get it, you are his stan.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by imdaman99
    Please stop making threads about him everyday. We get it, you are his stan.
    yeah we need more threads about lebron and kobe every day

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    Way to ignore percentages, winning, and defense. It's obvious you don't watch him.
    Corey Joseph
    10.1 ppg, 3.2 apg, 3.2 rpg, 16.3 PER, 53% shooting, in 25 mpg

    Goran Dragic
    16.7 ppg, 3.9 apg, 3.6 rpg, 17.5 PER, 51% shooting, in 33 mpg

    Eric Bledsoe
    16.4 ppg, 6.0 apg, 5.2 rpg, 18.77 PER, 44% shooting, in 33 mpg.

    Yeah, he's super elite.
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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    Corey Joseph
    10.1 ppg, 3.2 apg, 3.2 rpg, 16.3 PER, 53% shooting, in 25 mpg

    Goran Dragic
    16.7 ppg, 3.9 apg, 3.6 rpg, 17.5 PER, 51% shooting, in 33 mpg

    Eric Bledsoe
    16.4 ppg, 6.0 apg, 5.2 rpg, 18.77 PER, 44% shooting, in 33 mpg.

    Yeah, he's super elite.
    What was your excuse when he was at 21/7 last season at 51% FG, 40% 3PtFG%?

    Way to completely ignore context. Or do you assume an infinite number of basketballs in Suns games?

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    What was your excuse when he was at 21/7 last season at 51% FG, 40% 3PtFG%?

    Way to completely ignore context. Or do you assume an infinite number of basketballs in Suns games?
    There was no excuse. Go back and look, I was one of the ones who said Dragic got cheated out of the ASG.

    Fact is, he's not putting up those numbers this year. If you had made this thread last season, I'd be right there with ya.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    There was no excuse. Go back and look, I was one of the ones who said Dragic got cheated out of the ASG.

    Fact is, he's not putting up those numbers this year. If you had made this thread last season, I'd be right there with ya.
    He takes 13 shots a game and has to play off guard with Thomas and Bledsoe in the game...how much more can you expect?

    Get rid of Bledsoe and Thomas and he'd be back to his 2013-2014 stats

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    What was your excuse when he was at 21/7 last season at 51% FG, 40% 3PtFG%?

    Way to completely ignore context. Or do you assume an infinite number of basketballs in Suns games?
    He averaged 20/6 last season on a non playoff team. Prime Cuttino Mobley numbers.

    Never been a top 10 PG in the league.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by plowking
    He averaged 20/6 last season on a non playoff team. Prime Cuttino Mobley numbers.

    Never been a top 10 PG in the league.
    21/7 on a 48 win team that missed the postseason by one game.

    And dominated all the league's best PGs along the way.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    He takes 13 shots a game and has to play off guard with Thomas and Bledsoe in the game...how much more can you expect?

    Get rid of Bledsoe and Thomas and he'd be back to his 2013-2014 stats
    Ok, and until that time, he's just a 'good' player, not an all-star.

    Wes Matthews also takes 13 shots per game, and averages 16 points per game on 47% shooting, and plays elite level defense. Is he an all-star too?
    Last edited by UK2K; 01-17-2015 at 04:06 AM.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    Ok, and until that time, he's just a 'good' player, not an all-star.

    Wes Matthews also takes 13 shots per game, and averages 16 points per game on 47% shooting, and plays elite level defense. Is he an all-star too?
    Wes Matthews is a role player who scores off set shots. Dragic is the focus of the opposing defense. You're completely ignoring context.

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    Default Re: Dragic had 21, 5 and 8 today on 59% shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by masonanddixon
    Wes Matthews is a role player who scores off set shots. Dragic is the focus of the opposing defense. You're completely ignoring context.
    Dragic
    2pt FG assisted - 43%
    3pt FG assisted - 73%
    Usage rate - 21.6%

    Matthews
    2pt FG assisted - 40%
    3pt FG assisted - 86%
    Usage rate - 19.8%

    We can do this all day. They have the ball in their hands a similar % of the time, and have their shots assisted on a similar percentage.

    I'm not saying I would take Matthews over Dragic, I'm saying Dragic's #'s THIS season are not impressive.

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