Will Harrison Barnes get TT type money next summer?

[TrueBlue89]

I don't think GSW can afford to let him leave at this point in time. You don't break up a young core well on course to be one of the greatest ever. Lacob isn't a penny pinching ****** like Bennett but should that happen which team(s) would be willing to give him the max?

[Pushxx]

I don't think GSW can afford to let him leave at this point in time. You don't break up a young core well on course to be one of the greatest ever. Lacob isn't a penny pinching ****** like Bennett but should that happen which team(s) would be willing to give him the max?

Almost every single one.

He shows improvement every year, is a two-way player, fits today's NBA, and is only 23 years old.

He will be good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a great team, which is easily enough for the max these days.

[HurricaneKid]

Almost every single one.

He shows improvement every year, is a two-way player, fits today's NBA, and is only 23 years old.

He will be good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a great team, which is easily enough for the max these days.

He is probably the 6th best player on this Warriors team. If he is your second best player you are hoping for your lottery balls to hit. Period.

His skill set is far from worthy of a max deal. He is simply the beneficiary of having guys stretch the floor and break down defenses for him. The Warriors problem is that there are too many teams with too much money this offseason.

[TemporaMutantur]

He is probably the 6th best player on this Warriors team. If he is your second best player you are hoping for your lottery balls to hit. Period.

His skill set is far from worthy of a max deal. He is simply the beneficiary of having guys stretch the floor and break down defenses for him. The Warriors problem is that there are too many teams with too much money this offseason.

6th?!

Curry, Klay, Draymond.....

Are you putting Iggy and Livingston ahead of him?!

[feyki]

%100 .

[NBAplayoffs2001]

He is probably the 6th best player on this Warriors team. If he is your second best player you are hoping for your lottery balls to hit. Period.

His skill set is far from worthy of a max deal. He is simply the beneficiary of having guys stretch the floor and break down defenses for him. The Warriors problem is that there are too many teams with too much money this offseason.

If Wes Mathews can get a max contract, any above average wing can.

[chocolatethunder]

I don't think GSW can afford to let him leave at this point in time. You don't break up a young core well on course to be one of the greatest ever. Lacob isn't a penny pinching ****** like Bennett but should that happen which team(s) would be willing to give him the max?

Clay Bennett is a penny pincher because he tries to run a business and turn a profit while still fielding a competing team in a small market? I don't understand this line of thinking. So if a player goes to another team for more money because "it's a business", it's ok but if an owner wants to put out the best possible product while not losing money every year he's a penny pincher? You want Harden on that team? Or Reggie Jackson? You're nuts and hypocritical.

[HurricaneKid]

6th?!

Curry, Klay, Draymond.....

Are you putting Iggy and Livingston ahead of him?!

Bogut has been top 15 in RAPM for the last few years and Iggy was FMVP and is their defensive stopper.

[HurricaneKid]

If Wes Mathews can get a max contract, any above average wing can.

Wes was leading the NBA in 3s when he got hurt. As in MORE THAN STEPH CURRY.

He is a great defender at the 2 and was the HEART of the Blazers (they were the 4th best team in the NBA when he went down).

He avg 17.0 and 17.4ppg the last two years on .586 and .588TS%. He has been alarmingly consistent in his excellence.

And he agreed to a 4/54 deal that only went up when DJ backed out.

Barnes is at best the 4th best player on the team (probably closer to 6th IMO), has never avg more than 10.1 pts/gm. Has never shot with the efficiency of WesMatt and last years USG% of 14.9 was ~#360 in the league. Which means he is basically a catch and shoot player offensively.

And a max deal this year is 4/95.2M for another team. Or 76% more than Wes Matt agreed to.

[FreezingTsmoove]

I would offer him Lillard money

He is a franchise player

[SwishSquared]

Clay Bennett is a penny pincher because he tries to run a business and turn a profit while still fielding a competing team in a small market? I don't understand this line of thinking. So if a player goes to another team for more money because "it's a business", it's ok but if an owner wants to put out the best possible product while not losing money every year he's a penny pincher? You want Harden on that team? Or Reggie Jackson? You're nuts and hypocritical.

Even if they maxed out Harden + amnestied Perkins (or kept him), they would have still turned a profit. They made ~$27-30M in profit the year after the Harden trade. He wanted to keep that larger profit, and thus was happy to part ways with Harden for a below-average return.

[SwishSquared]

Bogut has been top 15 in RAPM for the last few years and Iggy was FMVP and is their defensive stopper.

Bogut likely is/will be worse than Barnes this season. He's declining due to his relative lack of an offensive game and age. Still has value facilitating from the elbows and screening, of course, but there's a reason GSW still played well with Ezeli in the starting lineup this year.

Barnes' salary for next year will be $18M at least. Wes Matthews got a max after tearing his Achilles a couple months prior. Just after, Cuban said Matthews could be their T-Mac in terms of albatross salary. Parsons got near-max money without being worth it. Charlotte maxed Hayward when most considered it an overpay.

Blazers, Suns, Wolves, Mavs, Nuggets, etc. are all teams just in the WC who will probably look to sign him to an offer sheet if he returns their calls.

[Thorpesaurous]

DeMarre Carroll got almost 15M per knowing he'd be the third best guy on that Raptor team, and that was after he was probably the third most important guy on that Hawk team that was a legit conference title contender.

I'd try to build a deal around that, but Barnes is much younger and comes from a better pedigree.

[HurricaneKid]

Bogut likely is/will be worse than Barnes this season. He's declining due to his relative lack of an offensive game and age. Still has value facilitating from the elbows and screening, of course, but there's a reason GSW still played well with Ezeli in the starting lineup this year.

Barnes' salary for next year will be $18M at least. Wes Matthews got a max after tearing his Achilles a couple months prior. Just after, Cuban said Matthews could be their T-Mac in terms of albatross salary. Parsons got near-max money without being worth it. Charlotte maxed Hayward when most considered it an overpay.

Blazers, Suns, Wolves, Mavs, Nuggets, etc. are all teams just in the WC who will probably look to sign him to an offer sheet if he returns their calls.

Its like you didn't read my post at all. Parsons got a 3/45. Hayward got a 4/62. Both are FAR BETTER offensive players. You are saying Barnes is going to get 4/95 or 5/129.5.

[HurricaneKid]

DeMarre Carroll got almost 15M per knowing he'd be the third best guy on that Raptor team, and that was after he was probably the third most important guy on that Hawk team that was a legit conference title contender.

I'd try to build a deal around that, but Barnes is much younger and comes from a better pedigree.

He was the 3rd most important player on a team that sent 4 other players to the All-Star game last year?

Sometimes guys need bigger roles. And DC is probably in that situation. He is the 3rd/4th option on a good Raptor team. He is extremely flexible. Can play multiple positions, can defend multiple positions, etc. But he got 4/60. Again, we are talking about Barnes making >50% more.