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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
    LeBron took a team to the Finals with Sasha Pavlovic starting.
    Prolly wouldve been the best player on some of the teams he was facing

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    Did LeBron even get a win in the Finals? The Spurs he faced were garbage compared to peak Shaqs Lakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Prolly wouldve been the best player on some of the teams he was facing
    Ether

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    1) Who did more with less?
    2) Let's say they meet in the Conference Finals. Who wins?

    Iverson considering he won a finals game, also Lebron in 2009 & 2010 had a better supporting cast than Iverson ever could have dreamed of having in Philly

    Iverson took a team with Jumaine Jones, George Lynch & Tryone Hill as starters and led them to a finals..01 was easily Iversons best supporting cast

    compare that to Lebron's best in Cleveland.

    2001 76ers : Def rating (5th overall) Opponents points per game (5th overall) SRS (7th overall)

    Leading contributors besides Iverson:

    Theo Ratliff: 12/8 on 50%. PER: 16

    Dikembe Mutombo: 12/12/3 on 50%. PER: 19.6

    Aaron Mckie: 12/4/5 on 47%. PER: 15

    Erick Snow: 10/3/7 on 42%. PER: 14


    2009 Cavs
    : Def rating (3rd overall) Opponents points per game (1st overall) SRS (1st overall)

    Leading contributors besides Lebron

    Mo Williams: 18/3/4 on 47%. PER: 17

    Big Z: 13/8 on 47% PER: 18

    Delonte West: 12/3/4 on 46%. PER: 14.1

    Andy V: 9/7 on 54%. PER: 14.6


    Iverson's top scoring guards other than himself combined for 22ppg while Lebrons back court combined or a little over 30ppg, with one of those players being an all star that year

    Iverson had a better defensive anchor in Mutombo, however the Cavs depth at big men evens that out, as they were able to throw Big Z who was a better offensive player than Mutombo, and then throw a guy like Andy V at you, who was a better back up big than anybody on the 76ers, and even then they still had Ben Walllace who was a productive defensive player and still averaged 7rpg on around 20mpg. A young JJ Hickson was also buried on the bench. Lebron's teams were also better overall defensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    Iverson considering he won a finals game, also Lebron in 2009 & 2010 had a better supporting cast than Iverson ever could have dreamed of having in Philly

    Iverson took a team with Jumaine Jones, George Lynch & Tryone Hill as starters and led them to a finals..01 was easily Iversons best supporting cast

    compare that to Lebron's best in Cleveland.

    2001 76ers : Def rating (5th overall) Opponents points per game (5th overall) SRS (7th overall)

    Leading contributors besides Iverson:

    Theo Ratliff: 12/8 on 50%. PER: 16

    Dikembe Mutombo: 12/12/3 on 50%. PER: 19.6

    Aaron Mckie: 12/4/5 on 47%. PER: 15

    Erick Snow: 10/3/7 on 42%. PER: 14


    2009 Cavs
    : Def rating (3rd overall) Opponents points per game (1st overall) SRS (1st overall)

    Leading contributors besides Lebron

    Mo Williams: 18/3/4 on 47%. PER: 17

    Big Z: 13/8 on 47% PER: 18

    Delonte West: 12/3/4 on 46%. PER: 14.1

    Andy V: 9/7 on 54%. PER: 14.6


    Iverson's top scoring guards other than himself combined for 22ppg while Lebrons back court combined or a little over 30ppg, with one of those players being an all star that year

    Iverson had a better defensive anchor in Mutombo, however the Cavs depth at big men evens that out, as they were able to throw Big Z who was a better offensive player than Mutombo, and then throw a guy like Andy V at you, who was a better back up big than anybody on the 76ers. Lebron's teams were also better overall defensively.


    Have you seen the series against the Magic????

    The Cavs defense have given 103 points per games against the Magic and they were unable to defend the 3 points and Dwight Howard....It was awful to see....Mo Williams was awful in this series too

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBron 06
    Have you seen the series against the Magic????

    The Cavs defense have given 103 points per games against the Magic and they were unable to defend the 3 points and Dwight Howard....It was awful to see....Mo Williams was awful in this series too
    The Cavs in 2009 were 1st in opponents points per game and 3rd in defensive rating.

    The next year they were still a top 10 defense even after losing Ben Wallace

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    The Cavs in 2009 were 1st in opponents points per game and 3rd in defensive rating.

    The next year they were still a top 10 defense even after losing Ben Wallace

    Yes, but they were not the best defense in the league...The defense have given 103 points per game against the Magic

    The 76ers were better in defense in the playoffs in 2001

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    God now people are making an argument that someone "won a game in the finals" How desperate can you be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBron 06
    Yes, but they were not the best defense in the league...The defense have given 103 points per game against the Magic

    The 76ers were better in defense in the playoffs in 2001
    Maybe that had something to do with LeBron being hidden on Rafer Alston and doing nothing to stop Hedo and Rashard from lighting his ass up?

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    1. lebron had a worse team. Iversons team wasnt good offensively but they were a good team.

    2. I think the sixers would win. They had more heart, better defence, and they had iverson who was liable to drop 50 every other night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Element
    Maybe that had something to do with LeBron being hidden on Rafer Alston and doing nothing to stop Hedo and Rashard from lighting his ass up?


    It was not LeBron who guarded Lewis in this series......It was Varejeo

    Alston and Hedo were very average in this series(Under 40% in this series), even if they were better than Mo Williams and Delonte West in this series..The cavs were not able to defend Howard in this series too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Element
    Maybe that had something to do with LeBron being hidden on Rafer Alston and doing nothing to stop Hedo and Rashard from lighting his ass up?

    That magic team was a terrible matchup for 95% of the NBA and that's why they got so far. Cavs didn't have the athleticism and length on the perimeter to contests those 3 pointers when they doubled howard, and they didn't have a player that could guard howard one on one.

    the 2010 cavs acquired shaq, jamario moon, and anthony parker to help them match up better with the magic and lakers and in the reg season games they played i think the 2010 cavs swept the lakers and went 2-1 against the magic.

    Too bad it didn't matter because of the epic meltdown against boston that was everyone but Lebron's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
    That magic team was a terrible matchup for 95% of the NBA and that's why they got so far. Cavs didn't have the athleticism and length on the perimeter to contests those 3 pointers when they doubled howard, and they didn't have a player that could guard howard one on one.

    the 2010 cavs acquired shaq, jamario moon, and anthony parker to help them match up better with the magic and lakers and in the reg season games they played i think the 2010 cavs swept the lakers and went 2-1 against the magic.

    Too bad it didn't matter because of the epic meltdown against boston that was everyone but Lebron's fault.

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    LeBron>>>>>Kobe

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    Quote Originally Posted by atljonesbro
    God now people are making an argument that someone "won a game in the finals" How desperate can you be?
    Almost as funny as the dude using "heart" to say who would win a series.

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