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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Absolutely. LeBron doesn't fair well against teams that have equal and/or better help.
His fans know that, and prefer the easiest path possible.
Is what it is.
Didn't Bron beat the Thunder who were more talented? Same with the Spurs in 2013. I'm pretty sure he beat the Pistons in 07 to get to the finals too. He seems to do okay.
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
Neither did Jordan. That is why 2011 is considered a chokejob for lebron because mavs weren't better than the heat.
No team in the last 20 yrs has won the finals against a clearly more talented team other than 2004 pistons and 2011 mavs and that was mostly because of shaq-kobe feud and lebron choking.
Heat weren't the favorites in 2006 IIRC. Can't remember who was in 2008. That was pretty even.
Thunder might have been favored after back-door sweeping the Spurs, who hadnt lost a game yet. After a couple games it was clear that they weren't ready yet though.
Last edited by ShawkFactory; 04-27-2015 at 02:09 AM.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
Neither did Jordan. That is why 2011 is considered a chokejob for lebron because mavs weren't better than the heat.
No team in the last 20 yrs has won the finals against a clearly more talented team other than 2004 pistons and 2011 mavs and that was mostly because of shaq-kobe feudand lebron choking.
This
Jordan team were so stacked they won 55 games without him in the 1994 NBA Season.
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College superstar
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Heat weren't the favorites in 2006 IIRC. Can't remember who was in 2008. That was pretty even.
I am using the examples where the other team clearly had better players. 2006 finals don't fall into that category.
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
About time.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Jordan 1-9 without Pippen in the playoffs.
Lebron is 0-4 in Finals without Wade.. 2-8 in the Finals without Shane Battier.
Btw, I'm never wrong on playoff predictions
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
Neither did Jordan. That is why 2011 is considered a chokejob for lebron because mavs weren't better than the heat.
No team in the last 20 yrs has won the finals against a clearly more talented team other than 2004 pistons and 2011 mavs and that was mostly because of shaq-kobe feud leading to kobe chucking like an idiot and lebron choking.
Why limit it to the finals? This is the second round of the playoffs.
By the way, the 1998 Jazz from top to bottom had more depth than the Bulls.
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by plowking
Didn't Bron beat the Thunder who were more talented? Same with the Spurs in 2013. I'm pretty sure he beat the Pistons in 07 to get to the finals too. He seems to do okay.
Most of them don't believe what they write.
They are in here to play the stan wars, a game for insecure people to feel better about themselves.
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College superstar
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by plowking
Didn't Bron beat the Thunder who were more talented? Same with the Spurs in 2013. I'm pretty sure he beat the Pistons in 07 to get to the finals too. He seems to do okay.
The fact is that lebron has only lost 1 playoff series again a worse team and that was 2011 finals. Kuniva will have you believe that this is a trend.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by 3ball
Lemme tell y'all something.. I'm starting the celebration NOW.
Lebron's season is OVER.. He ain't winning shit this year.. I doubt he makes the Finals.
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by plowking
I'm pretty sure he beat the Pistons in 07 to get to the finals too. He seems to do okay.
Can you tell me about that Pistons team?
Best ever?
Or did they play Chris Webber?
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Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by livinglegend
Most of them don't believe what they write.
They are in here to play the stan wars, a game for insecure people to feel better about themselves.
You took a major loss here.
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NBA Legend
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by plowking
Didn't Bron beat the Thunder who were more talented? Same with the Spurs in 2013. I'm pretty sure he beat the Pistons in 07 to get to the finals too. He seems to do okay.
Thunder were young and inexperienced, and I don't think the Spurs were any more talented than Miami that year, tbh.
I'll give you the '07 Pistons, but one series out of a couple dozen doesn't really say anything.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Lebron without Love = Level playing Field 2nd Round
Originally Posted by 3ball
Lebron is 0-4 in Finals without Wade.. 2-8 in the Finals without Shane Battier.
Btw, I'm never wrong on playoff predictions
At least he led his team in the NBA Finals while MJ's team got their @$$ kicked in the preliminary round of the playoffs.
Without Pippen and Phil. Jordan would be a bald headed Dominique Wilkins.
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