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High School Varsity 6th Man
What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
93 MJ- 41ppg on 50fg%, 8.5 rebound, 6.3 assist, 1.7 steals on 45.7 mins per games.
Lebron- 36.6ppg on 40fg%, 12.4 rebound, 8.8 assist, 1.2 steals on 45.6 mins per games.
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I get superstar calls
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Inb4 1-9 since no Pippen.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Originally Posted by sekachu
93 MJ- 41ppg on 50fg%, 8.5 rebound, 6.3 assist, 1.7 steals on 45.7 mins per games.
Lebron- 36.6ppg on 40fg%, 12.4 rebound, 8.8 assist, 1.2 steals on 45.6 mins per games.
Lebron's scoring and efficiency aren't nearly as impressive, since he gets to go 1-on-1 all alone on strongside.
All 4 help defenders are behind the far side of the paint on the weakside and therefore furthest from helping on Lebron's strongside actions, while leaving the paint wide open (as shown in example above).
Even though all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations.. His low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG%, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1
Considering Lebron's stats are based mostly on his poor isolation efficiency, MJ's far superior isolation ability and efficiency would enable much better stats than what Lebron has been able to do[.. Also, MJ's stats would be higher in today's game, since he would enjoy wide open paints on every single possession - in today's game, defenders must help from outside the paint, as opposed to already being there waiting.. MJ virtually NEVER faced a wide open paint in his era.. ever.
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Last edited by 3ball; 06-15-2015 at 12:26 PM.
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Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
If he was guarded the same way Lebron has been guarded, I'd say 40+/8+/7+/51%+ FG.
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Lord Olajuwon
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Originally Posted by sekachu
But the type of defense each guy faced factors into it
In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:
In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:
Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.
Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1
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Last edited by 3ball; 06-15-2015 at 01:44 PM.
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Banned
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
30 ppg on 35%fg
As the cavaliers get swept
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Verticle?
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
30-40ppg on 45%ish shooting.
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Banned (lol)
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
If he was guarded the same way Lebron has been guarded, I'd say 40+/8+/7+/51%+ FG.
with MJ's hawking skills, I imagine him padding a lot of steals
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Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
If he would get 60 iso's a game like Lebron?
46 ppg on 49% shooting.
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NBA All-star
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
His isolation shots percentage would be through the roof. If Lebron had Jordan's ability to score like Jordan then there would be no stopping him.
So much talent.
Last edited by jstern; 06-15-2015 at 01:30 PM.
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NBA All-star
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Originally Posted by 3ball
Oops, meant to add the quote box to my other post.
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WIND DEFENDER
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Given how Shitty the Cavs are right now I can see 50/8/8 on 48%
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Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
Originally Posted by plowking
30-40ppg on 45%ish shooting.
LMAO at this absurd range. 30 ppg on 45% isn't even IN QUESTION.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: What would be 93 MJ stats playing with cavailer against Golden states?
40/8/7/42-45% sounds about right. 50% shooting is a pipe dream against the league's #1 defensive team, on crazy volume/usage at the age of 30, when his game had pretty much completely moved to the perimeter. There's nothing in his history to suggest he would do that. Look up MJ's FG% against top 3 defenses he went up against in his career. Barring '92 Finals, he isn't close to 50% against anyone. And in LeBron's situation, he'd be playing with his worst offensive cast ever. So his usage would be higher than ever. Mid-40's FG% max.
Last edited by Indian guy; 06-15-2015 at 02:15 PM.
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