Attention: Jordan's 3rdball Explain this!!!!

[BedroomBully]

You say that during MJ's tenure in the NBA, the East was extremely stacked with talent. A bloodbath! A massacre JUST TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! It took MJ a herculean effort to get his team to into the playoffs year after year, just to come up short in the first round. Surely you have to have a stellar regular season record to make the playoffs, right? SURELY IT HAS TO BE WELL OVER .500? Right? Wrong! Please explain the following:

1984-85 38-44 Regular season record
1985-86 30-52!!!! Really?????? Fcukkkkin Really?
1986-87 40-42
1987-88 50-32

So tell me, how was the East stacked, when a RECORD OF 30-52 GOT YOU INTO THE PLAYOFFS???????

[3ball]

You say that during MJ's tenure in the NBA, the East was extremely stacked with talent. A bloodbath!

Win-loss records of young MJ and Lebron's 1st Round opponents



[COLOR="Blue"]Bucks[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 1985[/COLOR]: 59-23... #2 defense.. Division Champs
[COLOR="Blue"]Celtics 1986[/COLOR]: 67-15... #1 defense.. World Champs
[COLOR="Blue"]Celtics 1987[/COLOR]: 59-23... #9 defense.. Eastern Conference Champs
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[COLOR="Blue"]Combined Record: 185-61... 0.752.. some of the best teams ever[/COLOR]


[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2006[/COLOR]: 42-40... #22 defense
[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2007[/COLOR]: 41-41... #28 defense
[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2008[/COLOR]: 43-39... #24 defense
__________________________________________________ ____________
[COLOR="red"]Combined Record: 126-120... 0.512... some of the worst playoff teams ever[/COLOR]



Notes: MJ averaged 36.0 ppg on 45.3% against his all-time great opponents shown above, compared to 32.1 ppg on 48.1% for Lebron against his [COLOR="DarkGreen"]borderline lottery opponents[/COLOR].

So tell me, how was the East stacked, when a RECORD OF 30-52 GOT YOU INTO THE PLAYOFFS???????

It's called a statistical anomaly

and obviously, just because the 8th seed won 30 games, doesn't mean the higher seeds are vastly superior teams to another conference whose 8th seed won more games.

[Spurs m8]

*yawn, another kid that wasn't around in the 90s

[BigKAT]

Win-loss records of young MJ and Lebron's 1st Round opponents



[COLOR="Blue"]Bucks[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 1985[/COLOR]: 59-23... #2 defense.. Division Champs
[COLOR="Blue"]Celtics 1986[/COLOR]: 67-15... #1 defense.. World Champs
[COLOR="Blue"]Celtics 1987[/COLOR]: 59-23... #9 defense.. Eastern Conference Champs
__________________________________________________ ____________
[COLOR="Blue"]Combined Record: 185-61... 0.752.. some of the best teams ever[/COLOR]


[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2006[/COLOR]: 42-40... #22 defense
[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2007[/COLOR]: 41-41... #28 defense
[COLOR="Red"]Wizards 2008[/COLOR]: 43-39... #24 defense
__________________________________________________ ____________
[COLOR="red"]Combined Record: 126-120... 0.512... some of the worst playoff teams ever[/COLOR]



Notes: MJ averaged 36.0 ppg on 45.3% against his all-time great opponents shown above, compared to 32.1 ppg on 48.1% for Lebron against his [COLOR="DarkGreen"]borderline lottery opponents[/COLOR].




It's called a statistical anomaly

and obviously, just because the 8th seed won 30 games, doesn't mean the higher seeds are vastly superior teams to another conference whose 8th seed won more games.

Not trying to discredit Jordan here.
But of course he faced tougher teams if his own record was worse.
That's how the playoffs work.

You get a high W/L Record and you face weaker competition.
Lebron's early teams just did better in the regular season, that's why they got to the face the weakly Wizards rather then the Champion Celtics.

[BedroomBully]

Not trying to discredit Jordan here.
But of course he faced tougher teams if his own record was worse.
That's how the playoffs work.

You get a high W/L Record and you face weaker competition.
Lebron's early teams just did better in the regular season, that's why they got to the face the weakly Wizards rather then the Champion Celtics.

3ball constantly talks about the East conference being stacked from top to bottom! Not just top heavy. It MJ was great, why not secure a top seed?

[TheWinningFam]

Also to add on to this, Why did the bulls in jordan's second year only lose 4 more games than his rookie season with jordan missing almost the entire season with an injury. They still made the playoffs, despite allegedly having a weaker supporting cast and tougher competition.

[Spurs m8]

This threads pretty cute

Serious question though, do people actually think Bron is GOAT?

How? LMFAO

[BigKAT]

This threads pretty cute

Serious question though, do people actually think Bron is GOAT?

How? LMFAO

Jordan is definetly the GOAT.
No argument there.

But the constant need of some people here to VALIDATE that kinda makes me wish he wasn't. (But he is. And probably will be for all eternity.)

[Spurs m8]

But most people don't feel the need to validate it as such....its more defend it when dumb c*nts run their stupid mouths....which is fine.

[J Shuttlesworth]

This threads pretty cute

Serious question though, do people actually think Bron is GOAT?

How? LMFAO

Most LeBron fans voted him as 3rd best all time behind MJ, but 3ball is still on a crusade to prove that Jordan is better for some reason

[Smoke117]

Most LeBron fans voted him as 3rd best all time behind MJ, but 3ball is still on a crusade to prove that Jordan is better for some reason

I hear his next crusade is to prove water is wet.

[BedroomBully]

This threads pretty cute

Serious question though, do people actually think Bron is GOAT?

How? LMFAO

Where in my post did I say LeBron was the goat? You're another insecure beta bringin up LeBron in a discussion where he in not mentioned. I'm just asking 3ball why the Bulls got into the playoffs with a $hitty record when he constantly claims that the East was stacked back in MJs days.

[BedroomBully]

Jordan is definetly the GOAT.
No argument there.

But the constant need of some people here to VALIDATE that kinda makes me wish he wasn't. (But he is. And probably will be for all eternity.)

This is exactly my sentiments. Nobody in their right mind has LeBron over MJ. It irritates me that this clown 3ball is constantly attacking the production of his teammates to prop up his boy.

[Da_Realist]

Not trying to discredit Jordan here.
But of course he faced tougher teams if his own record was worse.
That's how the playoffs work.

You get a high W/L Record and you face weaker competition.
Lebron's early teams just did better in the regular season, that's why they got to the face the weakly Wizards rather then the Champion Celtics.

Lebron's teams did better because the conference was weak. He wouldn't win 66 games in the 80's East. The best team ever won 67.

[TheWinningFam]

Lebron's teams did better because the conference was weak. He wouldn't win 66 games in the 80's East. The best team ever won 67.

Why did the bulls in jordan's second year only lose 4 more games than his rookie season with jordan missing almost the entire season with an injury. They still made the playoffs, despite allegedly having a weaker supporting cast and tougher competition.
The only way this can be explained is jordan having a better supporting cast while facing equal or lesser competition than lebron.