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Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Below I listed and tallied the Allstar Level or HOF teammates that certain players have had throughout their careers.
Obviously not all the players listed fully apply in context (players being past their prime or multiple years removed from their last allstar selection, etc.), but I basically included every teammate that fell under the category of Allstar or HOF.
Shaq Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Kobe Bryant (17x Allstar, GOAT candidate, 2x Finals MVP, 1x MVP, Future HOF)
LeBron James (11x Allstar, GOAT candidate, 4x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, Future HOF)
Kevin Garnett (15x Allstar, 1x MVP, 1x DPOY, Future HOF)
Dwayne Wade (11x Allstar, #3 GOAT SG, 1x Finals MVP, Future HOF)
Karl Malone (14x Allstar, 2x MVP, HOF)
Gary Payton (9x Allstar, 1x DPOY, HOF)
Paul Pierce (10x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, Future HOF)
Steve Nash (8x Allstar, 2x MVP, Future HOF)
Ray Allen (10x Allstar, Future HOF)
Amare Stoudemire (6x Allstar)
Alonzo Mourning (7x Allstar, 2x DPOY, HOF)
Penny Hardaway (4x Allstar)
Mitch Richmond (6 Allstar, HOF)
Antoine Walker (3x Allstar)
Rajon Rondo (4x Allstar)
Glenn Rice (3x Allstar)
Eddie Jones (3x Allstar)
Nick Van Exel (1x Allstar)
Horrace Grant (1x Allstar)
Mo Williams (1x Allstar)
Final Tally: 20 Allstars (11 HOFs, 7 MVPs, 2 DPOYs)
Kobe Bryant Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Shaquille O’Neal (15x Allstar, 3x Finals MVP, 1x MVP, GOAT candidate, Future HOF)
Pau Gasol (5x Allstar, Future HOF)
Karl Malone (14x Allstar, 2x MVP, HOF)
Gary Payton (9x Allstar, 1x DPOY, HOF)
Steve Nash (8x Allstar, 2x MVP, Future HOF)
Dwight Howard (8x Allstar, 3x DPOY)
Mitch Richmond (6x Allstar, HOF)
Antwan Jamison (2x Allstar)
Ron Artest (1x Allstar, 1x DPOY)
Lamar Odom (6th Man of the Year)
Eddie Jones (3x Allstar)
Glenn Rice (3x Allstar)
Nick Van Exel (1x Allstar)
Horrace Grant (1x Allstar)
Andrew Bynum (1x Allstar)
Roy Hibbert (2x Allstar)
Final Tally: 15 Allstars (7 HOFs, 3 MVPs, 2 DPOYs)
LeBron James Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Dwayne Wade (11x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, #3 GOAT SG, Future HOF)
Ray Allen (10x Allstar, Future HOF)
Chris Bosh (10x Allstar, Future HOF)
Kevin Love (3x Allstar, Future HOF)
Kyrie Irving (3x Allstar, Future HOF)
Shaquille O’Neal (15x Allstar, 3x Finals MVP, 1x MVP, Future HOF)
Antwan Jamison (2x Allstar)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (2x Allstar)
Rashard Lewis (2x Allstar)
Mo Williams (1x Allstar)
Final Tally: 10 Allstars (6 HOFs, 2 MVPs)
Duncan Allstar/HOF Teammates:
David Robinson (10x Allstar, 1x MVP, 1x DPOY, HOF)
Tony Parker (6x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, Future HOF)
Lamarcus Aldridge (4x Allstar, Future HOF)
Manu Ginobili (2x Allstar, Future HOF)
Kuwai Leonard (1x Finals MVP, 1x DPOY, Future HOF)
Michael Finley (2x Allstar)
Sean Elliot (2x Allstar)
David West (2x Allstar)
Nick Van Exel (1x Allstar)
Final Tally: 9 Allstars (5 HOFs, 3 MVPs, 2 DPOYs)
Jordan Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Scottie Pippen (7x Allstar, HOF)
Dennis Rodman (2x Allstar, 2x DPOY, HOF)
Horrace Grant (1x Allstar)
BJ Armstrong (1x Allstar)
Charles Oakley (1x Allstar)
Jerry Stackhouse (2x Allstar)
Richard Hamilton (3x Allstar)
Christian Laettner (1x Allstar)
George Gervin (9x Allstar, HOF)
Bill Cartwright (1x Allstar)
Tony Kucock (1x 6th Man of the Year, Future HOF)
Robert Parish (9x Allstar, HOF)
Caldwell Jones (1x Allstar)
Steve Johnson (1x Allstar)
Final Tally: 14 Allstars (4 HOFs, 1 DPOY)
Magic Johnson Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Kareem Abdul Jabbar (19x Allstar, 6x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, GOAT candidate, HOF)
James Worthy (7x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, HOF)
Bob MacAdoo (5x Allstar, 1x MVP, HOF)
Jamaal Wilkes (3x Allstar)
Norm Nixon (2x Allstar)
Michael Cooper (1x DPOY)
A.C. Green (1x Allstar)
Cedric Ceballos (1x Allstar)
Eddie Jones (3x Allstar)
Nick Van Exel (1x Allstar)
Vlade Divac (1x Allstar)
Finally Tally: 10 Allstars (3 HOFs, 3 MVPs, 1 DPOY)
Larry Bird Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Kevin McHale (7x Allstar, 2x 6MOTY, HOF)
Robert Parish (9x Allstar, HOF)
Bill Walton (2x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, 1x MVP, 1x 6MOTY, HOF)
Dennis Johnson (5x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, HOF)
Nate “Tiny” Archibald (6x Allstar, HOF)
Danny Ainge (1x Allstar)
Cedrick Maxwell (1x Finals MVP)
Scott Wedman (2x Allstar)
Reggie Lewis (1x Allstar)
Dave Cowens (7x Allstar, 1x MVP, HOF)
“Pistol" Pete Maravich (5x Allstar, HOF)
Final Tally: 11 Allstars (7 HOFs, 3 MVPs)
Last edited by IllegalD; 07-19-2015 at 08:58 PM.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
*updated original post with Magic's and Bird's Allstar/HOF teammates.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
I don't even see the point of discussing basketball if you're too lazy to add context.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by Rocketswin2013
I don't even see the point of discussing basketball if you're too lazy to add context.
Then don't respond to the thread, f*ggot.
Context is completely subjective. I'm not gonna waste my time adding it because most everyone (depending on their Stan allegiance) will chose to see it whatever way fits their agenda.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
This list is disingenuous, saying these players played with "MVP's" when they were MVP's years beforehand is just silly. I think a much better method would be to count what their teammates accumulated while they were actually playing with them
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Interesting, thanks OP
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
This list is disingenuous, saying these players played with "MVP's" when they were MVP's years beforehand is just silly. I think a much better method would be to count what their teammates accumulated while they were actually playing with them
That would be disingenuous as well, we know dam well that some players make the all star game(especially in the east)/all NBA based on reputation not merit.
We should look at said support casts of all time greats' performance in the playoffs while playing with the ATG in question
Last edited by ISHGoat; 07-19-2015 at 09:20 PM.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by IllegalD
Then don't respond to the thread, f*ggot.
Context is completely subjective. I'm not gonna waste my time adding it because most everyone (depending on their Stan allegiance) will chose to see it whatever way fits their agenda.
People will actually acknowledge context if evidence is bright forth. They won't enter another thread with it in mind if they don't like it, but for a particular thread, it could actually work.
Still, carry on. Play your role. LeBron played with a prime Shaq in '10, Shaq played with prime Payton in '04, and whatever else misleading garbage posted.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by ISHGoat
Interesting, thanks OP
That would be disingenuous as well, we know dam well that some players make the all star game(especially in the east)/all NBA based on reputation not merit.
We should look at said support casts of all time greats' performance in the playoffs while playing with the ATG in question
That's why I wouldn't count all-star appearances, I'd use MVP's, DPOY's, All-NBA Team's, All Defensive Team's, and MVP top 10 finishes
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
the final tallies are stupid and misleading. According to that tony Parker = Kareem and one season/no playoffs of Kevin love = 5 years of pau gasol.
And Duncan playing with Aldridge counts the same as any other all star?
Obviously there's many others..
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by Rocketswin2013
People will actually acknowledge context if evidence is bright forth. They won't enter another thread with it in mind if they don't like it, but for a particular thread, it could actually work.
Still, carry on. Play your role. LeBron played with a prime Shaq in '10, Shaq played with prime Payton in '04, and whatever else misleading garbage posted.
And Kobe played with prime Malone, Payton, Richmond and Nash, right? And for multiple years?
BTW, Shaq had been an ALLSTAR the season before he got to the Cavs (putting up 18 PPG, and 8 REBs on 61% FG, so it ain't that insane to count him as legit help for LeBron...) Not my fault that LeBron castrated him like he does to all his allstar bigman teammates...
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National High School Star
Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
This makes kobe's supporting cast look better than magic's or Bird's
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
That's why I wouldn't count all-star appearances, I'd use MVP's, DPOY's, All-NBA Team's, All Defensive Team's, and MVP top 10 finishes
Why do we need to look at those? Those are just media things that are sometimes carelessly handed out. Voters may be biased, impartial, have an agenda, or are just outright not fit to be voters. Numbers do not lie.
In fact, some author for fivethirtyeight has already done this for us: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/w...porting-casts/
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by IllegalD
Below I listed and tallied the Allstar Level or HOF teammates that certain players have had throughout their careers.
Obviously not all the players listed fully apply in context (players being past their prime or multiple years removed from their last allstar selection, etc.), but I basically included every teammate that fell under the category of Allstar or HOF.
Duncan Allstar/HOF Teammates:
David Robinson (10x Allstar, 1x MVP, 1x DPOY, HOF)
Tony Parker (6x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP, Future HOF)
Lamarcus Aldridge (4x Allstar, Future HOF)
Manu Ginobili (2x Allstar, Future HOF)
Kuwai Leonard (1x Finals MVP, 1x DPOY, Future HOF)
Michael Finley (2x Allstar)
Sean Elliot (2x Allstar)
David West (2x Allstar)
Nick Van Exel (1x Allstar)
Final Tally: 9 Allstars (5 HOFs, 3 MVPs, 2 DPOYs)
How about never even played one NBA minute with Duncan?
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by IllegalD
And Kobe played with prime Malone, Payton, Richmond and Nash, right? And for multiple years?
BTW, Shaq had been an ALLSTAR the season before he got to the Cavs (putting up 18 PPG, and 8 REBs on 61% FG, so it ain't that insane to count him as legit help for LeBron...) Not my fault that LeBron castrated him like he does to all his allstar bigman teammates...
Well, Shaq played with Steve Nash. A dominant, and extremely effective offensive player. Nash also helped Amare Stoudemire(who regressed when he went to the Knicks) have some insanely productive seasons, and gortat had his best career season with Nash.
Shaq, all old and washed up turning into an all-star with Phoenix says more about Nash than LeBron, or even Shaq himself.
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Re: Supporting Casts of All Time Greats
Originally Posted by IllegalD
Kobe Bryant Allstar/HOF Teammates:
Karl Malone (14x Allstar, 2x MVP, HOF)
Gary Payton (9x Allstar, 1x DPOY, HOF)
Steve Nash (8x Allstar, 2x MVP, Future HOF)
Dwight Howard (8x Allstar, 3x DPOY)
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