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Buck Dynasty
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Average athletically for NBA demands...yeah. Overall, not at all.
In terms of agility, body coordination, stamina, quickness and pure acceleration Messi and Ronaldo are up there with anyone. Obviously stuff like vertical explosiveness, strength, power, etc. aren't on the level of the highest-tier NBA athletes.
It's like saying someone like Novak Djokovic or Nadal is "average athletically" just because they can barely dunk a basketball. They're still two of the best pure athletes in all of sports.. Anyone who's watched a high quality Nadal-Djokovic match, like the 2012 AO Final..it's just a different type of athleticism, but just as impressive. They're lightning quick, have insane body control, and have crazy elastic like agility..and they can do it for f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking 6 straight hours in the sun.
Same goes for soccer athletes, it's just a different style of athleticism, not level.
They're only clearly inferior if you compare them to freak athletes like Lebron and Westbrook..
Last edited by Milbuck; 09-11-2014 at 02:06 AM.
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National High School Star
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
steve nash is easily atleast 6'2.5 .. which makes him 6'3 in nba ratings
hes looking down on chris paul whos listed 6'0
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by unbreakable
steve nash is easily atleast 6'2.5 .. which makes him 6'3 in nba ratings
hes looking down on chris paul whos listed 6'0
the key word is listed
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NBA Legend
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by unbreakable
steve nash is easily atleast 6'2.5 .. which makes him 6'3 in nba ratings
hes looking down on chris paul whos listed 6'0
Please don't be one of those idiots that resort to this stupid single photograph analysis bullshit for which you have zero understanding of distortion, perspective, outside variables, or even a simple baseline of how tall either of the players in question ACTUALLY measusred in real life.
This is really simple... look the shit up on draftexpress, and ta-da he measured 6-1.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by unbreakable
steve nash is easily atleast 6'2.5 .. which makes him 6'3 in nba ratings
hes looking down on chris paul whos listed 6'0
bad angle
theyre at the exact same pose in this one, not more than 2 inch difference and CP is 5'11
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Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by red1
Solid list. There are a hundred different ways someone could come up with a top 5. Looks like you used the same criteria I would've used meaning the best combination of strength and speed. I've always maintained that explosiveness is the best measure of raw athleticism.
Don't forget strength, durability, resilience and endurance. Westbrook never missed a game since high school til his freak injury, then came back from 3 surgeries and had his best playoffs yet. I also don't recall seeing him tired, even after going hard for 40+ minutes, challenging 7 footers and absorbing contact like a champ.
AP came back from even worse injury and still dominated. Lebron never had any serious injuries even when coming down hard and twisting his leg/ankle.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by Graviton
Don't forget strength, durability, resilience and endurance. Westbrook never missed a game since high school til his freak injury, then came back from 3 surgeries and had his best playoffs yet. I also don't recall seeing him tired, even after going hard for 40+ minutes, challenging 7 footers and absorbing contact like a champ.
AP came back from even worse injury and still dominated. Lebron never had any serious injuries even when coming down hard and twisting his leg/ankle.
Correct. Durability is huge for a sport that may not be physical in the traditional sense but is high-impact nonetheless.
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Form is temporary
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by buddha
Christiano probably can't even dunk a basketball.
And LeBron can't score a free kick.
Apples and oranges.
Edit: Cristiano can dunk. He's more than 6 ft tall. I've seen 6 ft flat guys who can dunk and they're nowhere near the leaper Cristiano is.
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Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
NBA players vertical jumps do not differ much from other elite athletes who play explosive oriented sports.
The illusion comes with wingspans. NBA players have freakish wingspans so they don't have to jump as high to reach as high.
Soccer is not a sport where wingspan matters at all so it would be foolish to say they are "less athletic" for not being able to dunk a basketball.
Cristiano and Messi are two of the best athletes in the world, any sport.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
NBA players vertical jumps do not differ much from other elite athletes who play explosive oriented sports.
The illusion comes with wingspans. NBA players have freakish wingspans so they don't have to jump as high to reach as high.
Soccer is not a sport where wingspan matters at all so it would be foolish to say they are "less athletic" for not being able to dunk a basketball.
Cristiano and Messi are two of the best athletes in the world, any sport.
Agreed both top 25 athletes
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Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
I put my betting money that Ronaldo can dunk a basketball. Look at that body. This guy works out hard. He is a fit and muscular (All natural no steroids).
He is a legit 6'1 some more, with basketball shoes will be listed as 6'2.
Someone like Chris Brown who is 6'1 and is a rapper can also can easily dunk a ball, why are you doubting a professional athlete in Ronaldo then?
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NBA Legend
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
The way Messi can't be bullied off the ball is quite an athletic feat imo.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by tgan3
I put my betting money that Ronaldo can dunk a basketball. Look at that body. This guy works out hard. He is a fit and muscular (All natural no steroids).
He is a legit 6'1 some more, with basketball shoes will be listed as 6'2.
Someone like Chris Brown who is 6'1 and is a rapper can also can easily dunk a ball, why are you doubting a professional athlete in Ronaldo then?
First of all LOL Cristiano does use steroids
2nd he has a 30 inch vertical and his hands dont seem that long. He cant dunk
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"The One"
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Ronaldo can easily dunk a basketball you fools.
He is above average athletically compared to NBA players
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"The One"
Re: Are Messi and Cristiano athletically average compared to NBA players?
Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
First of all LOL Cristiano does use steroids
2nd he has a 30 inch vertical and his hands dont seem that long. He cant dunk
He was tested and his running vertical was like MJ type shit. He can dunk a basketball easily.
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