Will we ever see another player average 41.00 ppg or more for an entire Finals

[SouBeachTalents]

Pace was 85, which is slower than anything lebron ever played

Only mj and kobe averaged over 30 in an under-90 pace Finals.. So im pretty sure Lebron couldn't even average 30 in that series..

Btw, Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games of the 13' Finals while being guarded largely by Boris Diaw, so Im sure Mark West could do the same, let alone Richard Dumas, or all-nba defender Majerle

Overall in the 13' Finals, Lebron averaged only 25/10/7 on 53% ts, compared to Kawhi's 29/10/4 on 61% ts in the 19' Finals (kawhi had higher gamescore too).. Then there' the 07' and 11' Finals where Lebron was even worse - so lebron is easily stoppable - too many examples to choose from

Kawhi guarded LeBron the first 4 games of that series, Diaw didn't become LeBron's primary defender until Game 5, and in fact was a DNP in Game 3

Just amazes me you continue to talk at length about subjects you know nothing about

[Overdrive]

Only mj and kobe averaged over 30 in an under-90 pace Finals.. So im pretty sure Lebron couldn't even average 30 in that series..

Just another time you leave out Shaq, because he's on Jordan's level as a finals performer.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...vs-lakers.html

[3ball]

Kawhi guarded LeBron the first 4 games of that series, Diaw didn't become LeBron's primary defender until Game 5, and in fact was a DNP in Game 3

Just amazes me you continue to talk at length about subjects you know nothing about

They gave open jumpers to the guy you think is the greatest player of all time.....the best ever.....and he averaged 25 a game and shot like garbage... Let that sink in... Kawhi's play in the 19' Finals destroys his... b-b-but he's the goat tho

Bottom line is that lebron has plenty of series where he was shut down (including the 13' Finals), so the idea that the 93' Suns and a slower pace than Lebron ever played couldn't hold his stats down is ridiculous

[BigKobeFan]

Will we ever see another player do this in the Finals

sad how even with this god like stat, he is only 11th

[stalkerforlife]

They gave open jumpers to the guy you think is the greatest player of all time.....the best ever.....and he averaged 25 a game and shot like garbage... Let that sink in... Kawhi's play in the 19' Finals destroys his... b-b-but he's the goat tho

Bottom line is that lebron has plenty of series where he was shut down (including the 13' Finals), so the idea that the 93' Suns and a slower pace than Lebron ever played couldn't hold his stats down is ridiculous

Another one.

[sdot_thadon]

They gave open jumpers to the guy you think is the greatest player of all time.....the best ever....

Kawhi's play in the 19' Finals destroys his... b-b-but he's the goat tho

[TheMan]

Will we ever see another player do this in the Finals

What Finals did he do this in?

Asking for a Bran stan

[3ball]

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sdot: "lol, portland let mj shoot open jumpers, see:"

(proceeds to post a gif of cliff robinson practically bursting a blood vessel trying to contest MJ's shot)

And btw, mj broke the record when portland tested his jumper, while lebron averaged 16 on 39% for 3 games and was a net negative for the series

MJ's threes in 92' were less open then today's threes, where 89% of threes are taken with 4+ feet from the closest defender (described as "open" or "wide open"), according to NBA.com's tracking stats.. Even Curry shoots 80% of his threes with 4+ feet of room.. So MJ would get better looks from three today because offensive strategy is designed to drive and move the ball to get open threes

If you can't understand that today's era has more advanced strategy for getting open threes and are far better at it than previous eras, than i can't help you..

That's right - Kawhi was much better:

Kawhi'. 19' Finals - 29/10/4.. 60.6 ts.. 122 ORtg.. 23.9 gmsc.. +3.9
Lebron 19' Finals - 25/10/7.. 52.9 ts.. 106 ORtg.. 22.5 gmsc.. -0.2 (net negative)


capiche?

[Vino24]

MJ

[sdot_thadon]

sdot: "lol, portland let mj shoot open jumpers, see:"

(proceeds to post a gif of cliff robinson practically bursting a blood vessel trying to contest MJ's shot)

Do I really have to show you the other ones that aren't even contested? It shouldn't take more than one gif to refresh the memory of a supreme stan such as yourself.

And btw, mj broke the record when portland tested his jumper, while lebron averaged 16 on 39% for 3 games and was a net negative for the series

why not remind us how the last 4 games went, or more specifically just remind me how that last game 7 went. One of the best elimination game performances ever in the finals.

So MJ would get better looks from three today because offensive strategy is designed to drive and move the ball to get open threes

If you can't understand that today's era has more advanced strategy for getting open threes and are far better at it than previous eras, than i can't help you..

Or instead of needing all this modern advanced strategy, he could just suck at 3's like he's known to and he'll get all the open 3's he can stomach ala Giannis

That's right - Kawhi was much better:

Kawhi'. 19' Finals - 29/10/4.. 60.6 ts.. 122 ORtg.. 23.9 gmsc.. +3.9
Lebron 19' Finals - 25/10/7.. 52.9 ts.. 106 ORtg.. 22.5 gmsc.. -0.2 (net negative)


capiche?

I don't know which is the most despicable thing about this qoute:

-The comparison of this finals to Kawhi's when he's got like 3 or 4 finals better than this one.

- The fact you posted inaccurate stats, I mean how many times can you post wrong stats dude?

- Questionable rounding skills.

Trash.

[SpaceJam]

Doesn't happen if Pippen doesn't go off for 29 on 83% to bail out MJ's 16% (3/18) performance in Game 3 of the ECF

Such an important game, Bulls went into it down 0-2 had big dick Pippen not stepped up they'd go down 0-3 and most likely lose the series, and Bulls never get that 1st 3peat

[3ball]

why not remind us how the last 4 games went, or more specifically just remind me how that last [COLOR="DarkRed"]game 7 went[/COLOR]. One of the best elimination game performances ever in the finals.

You're praising lebron for a 7th game, when he could've swept them if he wasn't playing like aids... Imagine if 13' lebron doesn't average 16 on 39% for the first 3 games and instead plays like 92' MJ did, by coming out confident, guns blazing, setting records and legendary moments - the Spurs would lose in 4 obviously... .

And lebron was 23 on 43% thru 6 games of the 13' Finals - that wasn't sufficient, so he needed Ray Allen to force game 7 - MJ never averaged 23 on 43% thru 6 Finals games, so he never needed a 7th..

Or instead of needing all this modern advanced strategy, he could just suck at 3's like he's known to and he'll get all the open 3's he can stomach [COLOR="Blue"]ala Giannis[/COLOR]

No, he wouldn't be Giannis because Giannis has a horrible jumper, while MJ had one of the best ever and is a knock-down shooter..

MJ showed this with his goat midrange jumper, and also in the 92' and 93' Finals with threes (43% on 4.3 attempts), which is better than what Kawhi needed to beat Giannis in the ECF (34% on 5 attempts)

- The fact you posted [COLOR="DarkRed"]inaccurate stats,[/COLOR] I mean how many times can you post wrong stats dude?

The stats are accurate and 19' Kawhi had a much better Finals than 13' Lebron:


Kawhi'. 19' Finals - 29/10/4.. 60.6 ts.. 122 ORtg.. 23.9 gmsc.. +3.9
Lebron 19' Finals - 25/10/7.. 52.9 ts.. 113 ORtg.. 22.5 gmsc.. -0.2 (net negative)

-The comparison of this finals to Kawhi's when [COLOR="DarkRed"]he's got 3 or 4 better than this one/COLOR]

Lebron had other Finals that were better than his 13' Finals, but that isn't the point i was making.. I was just putting lebron's 13' Finals in perspective (much worse than 19' Kawhi's)

Do I really have to show you the other ones that aren't even contested? It shouldn't take more than one gif to refresh the memory of a supreme stan such as yourself.

Some of the other threes were contested, and again, his looks would be more open today like everyone else's are

[ILLsmak]

What Finals did he do this in?

Asking for a Bran stan

I kinda agree that this was blown out of proportion tho.

30-11-9-2.5(ish)-2.5(ish) is a really amazing stat line. I don't see how it matters that he lead everyone with it.

It's not like he was actively competing with people, or that any of those stats were historically high averages. It's just the full stat line.

But that was an amazing series, despite the weird things happening. Def made it so nobody can say Bron isn't top 10. Also made it so even tho Bron still comes off as 'kind of a choker', people can always bring that up and be like naw.

-Smak

[Mr Feeny]

I kinda agree that this was blown out of proportion tho.

30-11-9-2.5(ish)-2.5(ish) is a really amazing stat line. I don't see how it matters that he lead everyone with it.

It's not like he was actively competing with people, or that any of those stats were historically high averages. It's just the full stat line.

But that was an amazing series, despite the weird things happening. Def made it so nobody can say Bron isn't top 10. Also made it so even tho Bron still comes off as 'kind of a choker', people can always bring that up and be like naw.

-Smak

It was his best finals but interestingly enough he went 0-4in the last 6 minutes and really struggled, but he showed that you can be valuable in other ways e.g. his blocks on Iggy.

[aj1987]

Pace was 85, which is slower than anything lebron ever played

Only mj and kobe averaged over 30 in an under-90 pace Finals.. So im pretty sure Lebron couldn't even average 30 in that series..

Btw, Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games of the 13' Finals while being guarded largely by Boris Diaw, so Im sure Mark West could do the same, let alone Richard Dumas, or all-nba defender Majerle

Overall in the 13' Finals, Lebron averaged only 25/10/7 on 53% ts, compared to Kawhi's 29/10/4 on 61% ts in the 19' Finals (kawhi had higher gamescore too).. Then there' the 07' and 11' Finals where Lebron was even worse - so lebron is easily stoppable - too many examples to choose from

You are such a massive [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]aggot.

Diaw played a total of 20 minutes in the first 3 games. LeBron played more minutes in the first half of G1 alone. Not to mention the fact that Diaw didn't even play G3. Played 11 minutes in G4. In games 5 and 6, Diaw averaged 25 MPG. LeBron averaged 46 minutes in those games. Nearly twice as many minutes as Diaw.

Go play in traffic, you autistic turd.