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    Default Re: Is Giannis Antetokounmpo the most overrated "superstar" since Michael Jordan?

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    Ha, any other respectable hoops forum and you'd get banned for posting 1/4 of the retarded shit that gets posted here on the regular

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    Default Re: Is Giannis Antetokounmpo the most overrated "superstar" since Michael Jordan?

    Easily

    Both terrible 3 point shooters that struggle in the early rounds of the playoffs.

    Maybe if Giannis gets his Pippen + Grant + Rodman + Kukoc he will be ok

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    Default Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Let's be honest here, and cut all the BS excuses. Giannis is clearly the worst player to ever be the NBA MVP. Derrick Rose looked like he would forever hold that distinction, but thanks to Giannis winning it, he no longer is the worst all time player to win an MVP award.

    The NBA is about to give its league MVP award to a player that can't dribble, can't shoot, has a low basketball IQ, has no feel for the game, is a bad decision maker, and that has only two offensive scoring moves in his skill set......

    which are travel by taking steps and palming the ball, via either a wrongly executed Euro step, or an often out of control spin move, then either laying it up or dunking it...........

    and that relies on refs and the extremely soft NBA rules to make him look good.

    I never thought a player that is worse than Derrick Rose could get the NBA's season MVP award, but it has now happened.
    Last edited by Euroleague; 05-26-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Nice of you to emerge from that Arkansan cave you've been locked in for years while plotting how to get back at Giannis for doing your boy Spanoulis dirty.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Giannis > Wes Unseld

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Agree OP

    Truth be told, regular season MVP has lost its meaning now with so many horrible MVPs like Westbrook, Harden and Lebron.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Giannis would literally be seen as a God King in Europe.He would average prime Wilt numbers in the Euroleague vs those vanilla midgets

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Quote Originally Posted by 90sgoat
    Agree OP

    Truth be told, regular season MVP has lost its meaning now with so many horrible MVPs like Westbrook, Harden and Lebron.
    MVP lost all meaning far, far before anyone of those guys were even born.

    It's the highest individual award in the sport and since its inception has often times not gone to the highest individual. It's a stupid award and it almost always has been.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Quote Originally Posted by Im so nba'd out
    Giannis would literally be seen as a God King in Europe.He would average prime Wilt numbers in the Euroleague vs those vanilla midgets
    He averaged 10 points a game in his career with the Greek national team, playing in lower levels than EuroLeague.

    He is worse under FIBA rules, much worse.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Quote Originally Posted by Euroleague
    He averaged 10 points a game in his career with the Greek national team, playing in lower levels than EuroLeague.

    He is worse under FIBA rules, much worse.
    Newsflash: nobody cares

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Derrick Rose was never a travesty MVP. But OP is right about Giannis.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    he is the perfect example of nba marketing making a player greater than he seems...

    like imagine this dude under all different types of rule sets, ones where for instance no 3 seconds in the lane which is a blatant money grab rule to make athletic players appear good at basketball..

    analyze his skillset in a vacuum, hes not even really good at basketball.

    hes an insane athlete that has all the rules catered to him to allow him to flourish, force additional help, and give his teammates an easier time, thus creating a ripple effect where he and his team artificially succeed.

    its insane that so many USA fans cant look at skills and see this...

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    he is the perfect example of nba marketing making a player greater than he seems...

    like imagine this dude under all different types of rule sets, ones where for instance no 3 seconds in the lane which is a blatant money grab rule to make athletic players appear good at basketball..

    analyze his skillset in a vacuum, hes not even really good at basketball.

    hes an insane athlete that has all the rules catered to him to allow him to flourish, force additional help, and give his teammates an easier time, thus creating a ripple effect where he and his team artificially succeed.

    its insane that so many USA fans cant look at skills and see this...
    Giannis makes Lebron look fluid and graceful.

    That's how limited dude is on offense. Its dribble, attack and/or kick out. Sans the fluke three-pointers, there's no middle ground.

    Giannis is a likeable player with a yearning to improve. He'll come back better.

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    Default Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo Is The Worst NBA MVP Ever - Even Derrick Rose Was Better

    Hyperbolic in my book, but this series did make it painfully obvious that Giannis isn't going to break through unless he has a jump-shot good enough to keep the defense honest. Toronto pretty much gave the league the blueprint on how to neutralize him, at least in a playoff setting if you have the personnel.

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