Was Smush Parker really that bad?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lol. What does Kobe have to do with it???? He's great regardless. Why put his teammates down?

if it looks like a scrub, walks like a scrub, plays like a scrub, it's a scrub. Regardless of who's teammate he is..

you act like people are in here saying a good player like Odom or something wasn't shit and was a scrub.. Smush never found another job in the NBA, where's he playing these days..?? He bounced around from the HEAT, to the Clippers to the Nuggets and never got another gig in the NBA, has bounced around over seas.. the team he plays for doesn't even have a wikapedia page lmao.. Hell Marbury is winning rings in china..

[GimmeThat]

He couldn't really play the point guard position, and if he played as a back up point guard, he wasn't someone who you could count on knocking down multiple 3's a game. and that's with multiple attempts.

He was athletic, but the Lakers also drafted Farmar, who by all means, appeared and showcased having stronger work ethics than Smush.


If I had to compliment him, I would say that another player who had limited ability but also got more credit than they deserved would probably be Eric Snow.

Had he even just developed dribbling skills to not turn the ball over, there probably would have still been plenty of coaches who would take him off the bench for 10-15 min just to run some plays that would maintain the game score difference.

keep in mind, the clock is at 24 seconds at the NBA level compared to the 30 seconds at college level. (not sure why I felt inclined to include this information here)

[20Four]

OP is banned again...please let it be a PERM ban....

[97 bulls]

if it looks like a scrub, walks like a scrub, plays like a scrub, it's a scrub. Regardless of who's teammate he is..

you act like people are in here saying a good player like Odom or something wasn't shit and was a scrub.. Smush never found another job in the NBA, where's he playing these days..?? He bounced around from the HEAT, to the Clippers to the Nuggets and never got another gig in the NBA, has bounced around over seas.. the team he plays for doesn't even have a wikapedia page lmao.. Hell Marbury is winning rings in china..

What does what he did after his two year stint with the Lakers matter? I aldeady told you he was cut for assaulting someone. The Clippers only signed him because they needed a PG due to injuries. After their guards returned, they didnt need him. Not because he was a scrub. Damn. You guys expect a lot from a fourth or fifth best player on a 45 win team.

Laker fans are always disparaging Kobe Bryants teammates. Odom, Gasol, even Shaq. Its just dumb. Again, was he great or even good? No. But was he serviceable? Yes. Compare his stats to other guys who are the fourth best player on the team. On a mid 40 win team at that. He wasn't as bad as you're making him seem.

[sd3035]

You were definitely too young to know anything about those Lakers. Smush was a bum just like your family.

[Rooster]

What does what he did after his two year stint with the Lakers matter? I aldeady told you he was cut for assaulting someone. The Clippers only signed him because they needed a PG due to injuries. After their guards returned, they didnt need him. Not because he was a scrub. Damn. You guys expect a lot from a fourth or fifth best player on a 45 win team.

Laker fans are always disparaging Kobe Bryants teammates. Odom, Gasol, even Shaq. Its just dumb. Again, was he great or even good? No. But was he serviceable? Yes. Compare his stats to other guys who are the fourth best player on the team. On a mid 40 win team at that. He wasn't as bad as you're making him seem.

You have a point but not everything is about stat . Case in point, Chucky Atkins put up a career best stat when he played one year for the Lakers but for those who watched and followed the Lakers on that season, he was giving up double of that. Watching him live, every teammate of his have their eyes on his man which makes it difficult to play team defense. It was different with Smush, they knew he could handle his man but the frustrating part was he's not putting up enough effort or just that lack of awareness. And both of these guys were locker room cancer, Chucky with his know it all attitude and Smush with his pouting.

Fish has that decent stats too but he was as atrocious in defense and can't make a layup. However he has that locker room presence that even Kobe can respect and that's what made him valuable . Us Lakers fans are just spoiled because we have history of great players throughout so our expectations are a little higher. Our criticism with Smush was fair but for those who criticized Shaq, it is agenda driven. Funny thing is most of those players who played with Kobe have their best season.

[Droid101]

Why argue? Smush was complete garbage, proven by his play before and after the Lakers. The Lakers were so bad that year, that they HAD to give the dude minutes. That's the only reason he put up any kind of statistics.

[Levity]

Why argue?

I'm curious as to why, as well. 97 vehemently denies that Smush was terribad, but doesnt give reason as to why he disagrees. just stats drop like some ESPN clone.

[houston]

when you get 10+ pages out of a Smush Parker thread with a couple idiots trying to act like he was good, and making excuses for why he couldn't get a job in the NBA during the prime of his career.. you know that the Kobe hate is strong as fucc..

yup truth indeed

[Lebronxrings]

when you get 10+ pages out of a Smush Parker thread with a couple idiots trying to act like he was good, and making excuses for why he couldn't get a job in the NBA during the prime of his career.. you know that the Kobe hate is strong as fucc..

sure, but then you have idiots like you who act like smush was complete trash and kobe played with scrubs while acting like inferior guys like chalmers were great. Kobe wank is strong as fucc..

[Dr Seuss]

sure, but then you have idiots like you who act like smush was complete trash and kobe played with scrubs while acting like inferior guys like chalmers were great. Kobe wank is strong as fucc..

Chalmers is better than Smush ever was. and thats a non-issue anyhow, because James joined a team which already had chalmers, so he could play with Wade and Bosh.

[97 bulls]

I'm curious as to why, as well. 97 vehemently denies that Smush was terribad, but doesnt give reason as to why he disagrees. just stats drop like some ESPN clone.

Truthfully. Its not about Smush Parker. Its about this ridiculous notion of putting great players teammates down. This particular thread is about Parker.

I also don't believe this would be as big of an issue had Kobe not had this beef with him.

As far as my proof. Its there. Ill ask again (for the third time) what does your typical mid 40 win team get out of their fourth best scorer/player?????? I feel he was a good defender when engaged but he gambled a lot. 11 points and 4 asts on 45% shooting is not bad. And he made 36% of his threes. As far as if he should've been playing basketball, my response.would be, this is the NBA. If he wasnt good enough, he wouldn't have got one game in preseason much less two full seasons as an undrafted journeyman. On the Lakers even more. Truth be told, a large portion of the players that play in the NBA end up having a career just like Parker. Even more undrafted players.

Now here the rebuttal. He sucked with the Lakers, because Miami cut him. He doesn't play today (hes 34), Kobe doesn't like him.

[20Four]

sure, but then you have idiots like you who act like smush was complete trash and kobe played with scrubs while acting like inferior guys like chalmers were great. Kobe wank is strong as fucc..

no wonder you flip burgers....

[GimmeThat]

Chalmers is better than Smush ever was. and thats a non-issue anyhow, because James joined a team which already had chalmers, so he could play with Wade and Bosh.

with Chalmers attempt, you might blame it on his technique with the lack of elite athleticism at the NBA level. Speaking of mid range instead of the 3 pointers of course. unless his team is okay and set with him taking those pick and roll attempts as he goes further away from the pick, since him actually going for the drive just isn't a great possibility even if that is the textbook X's and O's play.

[GimmeThat]

Truthfully. Its not about Smush Parker. Its about this ridiculous notion of putting great players teammates down. This particular thread is about Parker.

I also don't believe this would be as big of an issue had Kobe not had this beef with him.

As far as my proof. Its there. Ill ask again (for the third time) what does your typical mid 40 win team get out of their fourth best scorer/player?????? I feel he was a good defender when engaged but he gambled a lot. 11 points and 4 asts on 45% shooting is not bad. And he made 36% of his threes. As far as if he should've been playing basketball, my response.would be, this is the NBA. If he wasnt good enough, he wouldn't have got one game in preseason much less two full seasons as an undrafted journeyman. On the Lakers even more. Truth be told, a large portion of the players that play in the NBA end up having a career just like Parker. Even more undrafted players.

Now here the rebuttal. He sucked with the Lakers, because Miami cut him. He doesn't play today (hes 34), Kobe doesn't like him.

okay, you are right. They only acquired Smush Parker because Kobe had demanded Slava Medvendenko with him wherever he went to on his next team.


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