Possible picks at #4

[Jasi]

First off the guy has a ton of talent. And the talent fits perfectly with Carmelo


I believe a championship team can be built around Carmelo, but that Carmelo is not today's prototype sf. I believe he is a unique talent and more difficult to build around than the perimeter 3's that most teams use. I think as a perimeter 3 Carmelo is an all star but used as a power 3 he is a superstar.


To use Carmelo in a power 3 role it will take bigs that can fill into some roles traditionally thought of as wing roles.

I don't think you use bargnani as a guy to just stand at the 3 point line but that he has to be covered 15-18 all the way out to the 3 point line- spacing the floor and allowing Carmelo to play closer to the basket.


If Carmelo starts the majority of his possessions off of an entry pass 15 feet and in he becomes a threat to score or pass. Starting most of his possessions from the 3 point line off the dribble he becomes an ISO scorer only.


I like bargnani because he is talented and meshes w Carmelo's strengths perfectly. We just haven't seen it because of both guys inability to stay healthy the last 2 seasons.

I am not in love w/ Bargs like you, but I agree with this post.

However the inability to stay healthy IS an actual issue.
We cannot waste time anymore.

[Da KO King]

I still think all the draft talk is useless because of the coach.

That said, I'd like them to considering trading down. I think WCS ends up being a quality athletic rim protector who can also run the floor. One of those Deandre Jordan/Hassan Whiteside type guys.

See if you can move down with hopes of getting WCS and Stanley Johnson.

[Patrick Chewing]

I have a sneaky feeling that Okafor drops to us.

[bluechox2]

I have a sneaky feeling that Okafor drops to us.

no way...we will probably go for winslow

[el gringos]

no way...we will probably go for winslow

How could you pick Winslow if you had WCS and prob porzingis , maybe even Russell?

[el gringos]

I have a sneaky feeling that Okafor drops to us.

I'm getting that feeling too. But it doesn't mean you have to draft him. Russell/porzingis/stien - tier 1
Mario/mudiay - tier 2
Okafor, Winslow - tier 3

There will be at least 1 tier 1 guy left. Don't take okafor. WCS over okafor if Russell a nd porzingis are off the board

[Rameek]

I'm getting that feeling too. But it doesn't mean you have to draft him. Russell/porzingis/stien - tier 1
Mario/mudiay - tier 2
Okafor, Winslow - tier 3

There will be at least 1 tier 1 guy left. Don't take okafor. WCS over okafor if Russell a nd porzingis are off the board

What makes YOU think Porzingis is tier 1?

[Patrick Chewing]

gringos off his meds again as usual.


There is no way Cauley-Stein is better than Okafor. At anything.


If Okafor is there at 4, the Knicks will draft him.

[smoovegittar]

Bargnani is not a PJ kind of player. Sure, he can get hot with his shooting - so can a better portion of the league. But he's a 7 footer that won't rebound and doesn't seem to understand how to block out. Terrible passer as well. He looks clueless out there when the team runs plays. I also believe he's busted - he think's he's still a superstar after coming undone in Toronto, and between injuries and the bright lights I don't think this guy plays another serious minute of NBA ball. If he had anything to show Jackson last year, then I missed something. Glad he'll be off the books.

... in other news, is it any surprise witnessing J.R. Smith's disappearing act in Cleveland? They'll be shipping his ass out as well. I have no tolerance for chuckers who don't "get it". Carmelo is about all I can handle.

[el gringos]

gringos off his meds again as usual.


There is no way Cauley-Stein is better than Okafor. At anything.


If Okafor is there at 4, the Knicks will draft him.

You mean other than everything defensively, screening, cutting, shooting free throws, jumpshot. Did you mean he WCS isn't better as a post scorer but better at everything else. And taller, way more athletic and faster running the floor, better at catching lobs

[Jasi]

Can I ask you guys: if you're at Barclays Centre on the 25th at the moment the Knicks are picking, what picks would you boo at, and what picks would you cheer at?

[Patrick Chewing]

Can I ask you guys: if you're at Barclays Centre on the 25th at the moment the Knicks are picking, what picks would you boo at, and what picks would you cheer at?

Any Euro player or WCS.

I would obviously cheer for Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, or Winslow.


My rankings would be:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Winslow
4. Russell
5. Mudiay

[Jasi]

Any Euro player or WCS.

I would obviously cheer for Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, or Winslow.


My rankings would be:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Winslow
4. Russell
5. Mudiay

"Any Euro"

Why WCS?

[Patrick Chewing]

"Any Euro"

Why WCS?

Knicks need another scorer besides Melo. WCS is not a scorer the way Okafor is. I wouldn't put too much focus on the defense cause Okafor is such a big body anyway that just by him standing there, he's going to cause trouble for people taking it to the hoop.

All the other guys on that list are two-way players also.

[smoovegittar]

Any Euro player or WCS.

I would obviously cheer for Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, or Winslow.


My rankings would be:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Winslow
4. Russell
5. Mudiay

I'm down with this list, Chew - but I have a suspicion Mudiay will be a beast. I won't cry if we land Russell, tho. I'm not sold on Winslow.