2015 westbrook vs 2011 Wade

[greatest-ever]

Better player? No troll answers here.

[swagga]

wade by a healthy margin ... The experience and defensive impact gap is significant.

[swagga]

oh, btw, the previous post was from a "winning a ring" perspective.

for the regular season i'd take westbrook's energy.

[greatest-ever]

wade by a healthy margin ... The experience and defensive impact gap is significant.

Agree on defense. There is no experience edge though this was Wade's 8th season, Westbrook's 7th and both jave plenty of postseason action.

[ShawkFactory]

Wade.

Pretty much echoing the others but in the regular season Westbrook would have better numbers but when it came down to it I'd rather have Wade on my team.

[TheNaturalWR]

Wade comfortably. 2011 Wade is such an underrated season for him. Honestly felt like that was his 2nd best season ever tied with 07' pre-injury. He put up 25/6/5 on 50% FG and that's with playing LeBron. If LeBron got injured like Durant did this season, he probably would have put up 30/7/6 and been a strong MVP candidate.

[Prime_Shaq]

Just wondering why do you pick 2011 Wade? Any particular reason?

[aj1987]

Just wondering why do you pick 2011 Wade? Any particular reason?

1. Better offensive player.
2. Higer IQ.
3. More efficient.
4. Better defender.

[BlakFrankWhite]

People picking Wade need to get their head examined..

Wade had far more help then Westbrook did so ofcourse his play was gonna look good....this season Durant's has/will missed 50+.....Ibaka has/will miss 20+ games.....

so Westbrook single-handedly carried his team to the playoffs....while being top 5 in both scoring and assists(first player in 27 years to do so)....

Wade had the frikkin MVP and a perennial all-star...so his FG% would obviously look better....while Westbrook's had to carry the offensive load for much of the season.... he HAS to shoot more considering he has team mates like Roberson,Waiters and Singler.

[aj1987]

People picking Wade need to get their head examined..

Wade had far more help then Westbrook did so ofcourse his play was gonna look good....this season Durant's has/will missed 50+.....Ibaka has/will miss 20+ games.....

so Westbrook single-handedly carried his team to the playoffs....while being top 5 in both scoring and assists(first player in 27 years to do so)....

Wade had the frikkin MVP and a perennial all-star...so his FG% would obviously look better....while Westbrook's had to carry the offensive load for much of the season.... he HAS to shoot more considering he has team mates like Roberson,Waiters and Singler.

'06 - 49.5%
'07 -49.1%
'09 - 49.1%
'11 - 50%

Wade has always been efficient. He actually had WORSE teammates in '09 than what WB has right now. He still managed 49.1%. Just because he had better teammates doesn't make him a worse player than what he was in '09/'10. Even though he shared the ball with LeBron and Bosh a ton, he managed to put up. 26/6/5/2/1 on 58% TS with elite defense.

[greatest-ever]

People picking Wade need to get their head examined..

Wade had far more help then Westbrook did so ofcourse his play was gonna look good....this season Durant's has/will missed 50+.....Ibaka has/will miss 20+ games.....

so Westbrook single-handedly carried his team to the playoffs....while being top 5 in both scoring and assists(first player in 27 years to do so)....

Wade had the frikkin MVP and a perennial all-star...so his FG% would obviously look better....while Westbrook's had to carry the offensive load for much of the season.... he HAS to shoot more considering he has team mates like Roberson,Waiters and Singler.

This comment is strange.

Westbrook has mostly been in the 42-44 fg%, 52-54 ts% for his career even with KD playing so that argument about Wade's teammates isn't a legitimate point. A healthy Wade has always shot much more efficiently than that regardless of supporting cast.

Furthermore, Westbrook's insane usage inflates his numbers and assists in particular, while he's also averaging 4.4 turnovers which is pretty abysmal.

You can't really judge this comparison strictly off numbers though, because Wade had way less ball handling duties with Lebron there. If there was no Lebron, Wade probably would've had another 27 5 7 type season with better defense than Russell.

[BlakFrankWhite]

'06 - 49.5%
'07 -49.1%
'09 - 49.1%
'11 - 50%

Wade has always been efficient. He actually had WORSE teammates in '09 than what WB has right now. He still managed 49.1%. Just because he had better teammates doesn't make him a worse player than what he was in '09/'10. Even though he shared the ball with LeBron and Bosh a ton, he managed to put up. 26/6/5/2/1 on 58% TS with elite defense.

TS% while being an important stat...isn't the be-all,end all of a player's importance...just look at Kobe,his FG% were never jaw dropping...yet he was the most feared scorer in his prime...

Like I said Westbrook has to shoot more....Waiters just had a 2/2/2 performance in 27 minutes last night and he's been terrible ever since he joined....not to forget the many legendary 0 point performances by Singler,Roberston and ofcourse Kendrick Perkins.

Westbrook puting up a historic 27/7/9 season....he's carrying the Thunder to the PO's in the toughest western conference in history.

2015 WB > 2011 Wade

[greatest-ever]

Just wondering why do you pick 2011 Wade? Any particular reason?

For comparison? Because i think Wade's other healthy prime years being 06, 09, and 2010 are comfortably better and i don't see them as a worth comparison.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

1. Better offensive player.
2. Higer IQ.
3. More efficient.
4. Better defender.

Better offense is arguable. 11 Wade didnt put pressure on defenses like Russ does right now
i would pick Wade tho. Thats a top 20 player ever in one of his best seasons

[greatest-ever]

TS% while being an important stat...isn't the be-all,end all of a player's importance...just look at Kobe,his FG% were never jaw dropping...yet he was the most feared scorer in his prime...

Like I said Westbrook has to shoot more....Waiters just had a 2/2/2 performance in 27 minutes last night and he's been terrible ever since he joined....not to forget the many legendary 0 point performances by Singler,Roberston and ofcourse Kendrick Perkins.

Westbrook puting up a historic 27/7/9 season....he's carrying the Thunder to the PO's in the toughest western conference in history.

2015 WB > 2011 Wade

That really isn't much of a counter to my statement. You didn't address my point about Westbrook's Usage % and keep pointing to stats for Westbrook being the better player. You can't go by stats, Wade was sharing the ball with Lebron who was averaging 27 7 7 himself. Wade is better than his stats suggest here.

Again the fact that he is carrying them to the postseason isn't a relevant argument. Wade has carried scrub teams to the playoffs himself and 2011 would've been no exception if he had scrubs.

2015 WB > 2011 Wade

Yeah repeating that isn't presenting any sort of argument.

I think this comparison is highly debatable and ism waiting for the playoffs to really make my decision.