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Old 09-18-2019, 03:50 AM   #106
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Mo Williams could score. Mo Williams could create his own shot. The Mo Williams I recall, however, gave up a lot of points on defense.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:21 AM   #107
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I see him in a simlar light as Jason Terry. Terry actually won a ring though. So there's that.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:22 AM   #108
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Terry's a much better three point shooter, got to hive him that. Terry aint creatin his shot like Mo, though.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:53 AM   #109
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Hey yo: Well technically Shaq was a good shooter. I mean REAL GOOD. Just look at his scoring man!

Admit you were wrong and move on. Making 3ball look like Galileo over here.

It's not that...

It's the fact that we allow nerds to hijack basketball discussion. They're both responding to each other with basketball reference in the next tab over until it's painfully obvious that one of them doesn't watch basketball.

That's why you troll most lebron stans, honestly. Imagine thinking that Kyle Korver isn't an elite shooter just to prop up your hero.

There's no bottom for these clowns. Stop debating them.
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:43 AM   #110
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:58 AM   #111
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Time to derail this thread with an irrelevant stat that will annoy the hell out of 3ball.

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In the 2007 playoffs, the Cavs were:

+4.7 per 100 with LeBron (893 minutes)
-18.3 per 100 without LeBron (77 minutes)

Cavs literally were 23 net points better with LeBron on the floor vs. off.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:11 PM   #112
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Not even worth responding to all that. Simple question

Can you provide evidence of anyone saying Korver is NOT an elite shooter? You and I both know I can easily find Korver being referred to as an elite shooter, but Iíll concede the discussion immediately if you find where anyone reputable says Korver or Kerr ARENT elite shooters

Youíre being intellectually dishonest here and itís ridiculous
They're elite 3pt shooters, aka 3pt specialists. That's what they're known for and is their 3pt shooting, no????? Anyone who calls him an elite shooter certainly is referring to his 3pt shooting. Nobody in their right mind would say that Korver is in the same class as Bird or KD who are known as elite shooters, agree??

When the Cavs swept the 60 win Hawks in the ECF..... I didn't see anyone on here giving them credit for beating "Korver the elite shooter" did you?

When the Cavs acquired Korver, all I saw was "STACKED, ONE THE BEST 3PT SHOOTERS EVER!!!! Nobody on here referred to him as an elite shooter cause when his name is mentioned, people automatically think of the 3pt shot which = a 3pt specialist classification.

You classifying Jose Calderon as an elite shooter tells me enough about your train of thought on this subject.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:22 PM   #113
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http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...6&postcount=15

Since NBA.com presents facts:

Traded to the Cavs last season, Korver could have gone to any number of teams last summer as a free agent. Heís an elite shooter, a career 43.1 percent marksman on 3-pointers.

https://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/...n-james-rivals

Also
https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22...ter%22++korver

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Yep.... an elite shooter in which they immediately posted his 3pt% right after that. He's a 3pt specialist. If was a true elite shooter, then they would have posted his career FG% but for some reason they didn't. Hmmmmmm wonder why??

Is he in the same class as MJ as a shooter?

Down by 1 with the last shot, you taking Korver over Dirk or KD or MJ??? Do you consider those 3 as elite shooters along with Korver?

LOL @ calling that NBA.com opinion as fact. What one's opinion is about a players ability isn't the same as what millions saw transpire in a game. Nice try though.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:38 PM   #114
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You're a ****ing moron.

Korver is 4th all-time in 3s made, 9th in 3-point percentage, top 20 in FT% and has been consistently around 40-45% from mid-range for his career. That's an elite shooter. You think someone who's consistently 40-45% from three and 85-90% from the FT line for his whole career is not a capable shooter from mid-range?

According to your logic, Steph Curry is not an elite shooter because he mostly shoots 3s. Korver mostly shoots long 2s and 3s and he's 44.9% on long 2s and 42.9% from 3 for his career. Apparently that does not make him an elite shooter.
% of shots taken from mid-range for his career = .072 which isn't nearly enough to label him anything from mid-range. He a long 2 / 3pt shooter. That's his label.

Curry's in the same boat. He hasn't / doesn't take enough mid-range to label him one way or the other He's an elite "3pt shooter" cause that's what he does. He doesn't take enough mid-range to call him an elite shooter. What he does needs a specification. People want to call him the greatest shooter of all time but he's never shown enough skill from other areas of the floor (besides 3pt range) to call him the best. Neither Curry or Korver belong in the same category as Dirk, or KD or Bird or MJ (except 3pt shooting) when it comes to calling a player an elite shooter.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:43 PM   #115
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Bran is the GOAT shooter wish I was trolling.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:41 PM   #116
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Yep.... an elite shooter in which they immediately posted his 3pt% right after that. He's a 3pt specialist. If was a true elite shooter, then they would have posted his career FG% but for some reason they didn't. Hmmmmmm wonder why??

There's no value in this rebuttable, because it's extremely simple to post many references where they don't mention his 3PT% (As if citing that disqualifies him. You can find the exact same thing said about Curry and citing his 3-pt percentage). I'm sure you knew that, in fact I posted a google search with tons of them.

Learn to take the logical next step so you don't do this shit again

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Is he in the same class as MJ as a shooter?

Jordan is a scorer

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Down by 1 with the last shot, you taking Korver over Dirk or KD or MJ??? Do you consider those 3 as elite shooters along with Korver?

Dirk and MJ are known for being clutch. Korver not as much. Steve Kerr is pretty clutch though and seeing as MJ actually gave the ball to him to win a championship game, I think that's pretty clear evidence he considers him capable


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LOL @ calling that NBA.com opinion as fact. What one's opinion is about a players ability isn't the same as what millions saw transpire in a game. Nice try though.

Are you dense? You're the one that called NBA.com factual. Literally provided your post saying it. Similarly I could say "One persons opinion on what transpired in a game" isn't factual but like I said, you can't take the logical next step to see your own hypocrisy. Besides, I already accounted for you trying to isolate these things. Which is why I provided a google search with THOUSANDS of results calling Korver an "Elite Shooter"

I asked you to do one simple thing. Out of courtesy I responded to this post where you clearly avoided doing it, but now I'll ask again. I've provided overwhelming evidence of many analysts/writers/coaches referring to Korver as an Elite Shooter. Now you show me some where they say he's not one
Are you dense?
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