Replace Shaq with Webber on the 00-02 Lakers

[SouBeachTalents]

For the sake of argument, let's say Shaq isn't in the NBA, how many titles do a Kobe-Webber Lakers team win in the early 2000's?

[iTare]

1-2

[VIntageNOvel]

2 or 3 (who replace webber on kings?)

lets be real, the real final was in WCF where kobe absolutely going ham,
kobe webber would beat any team that come out of east

[Akrazotile]

0 titles, lets be real here

[RoundMoundOfReb]

0-0

[navy]

1 maybe.

[bigkingsfan]

Webber was up there with KG and Duncan back then, but he was no defense specialist, one ring at most.

[IllegalD]

At least two. Most likely 3.

We saw what happened when you gave a past his athletic prime Kobe a 20 and 10 guy in Gasol. Everyone shat themselves when that trade went down because they knew what it meant a still in his relative prime Kobe a 20, 10 all-star caliber player.

Give 2000-2010 Kobe any 20, 10 guy and he's contending for a championship every year.

[Rooster]

2 or 3 (who replace webber on kings?)

lets be real, the real final was in WCF where kobe absolutely going ham,
kobe webber would beat any team that come out of east

Most definitely plus Webber would be a great fit for triangle. Finals were for formality those days. The only reason East won games during those three peat was Kobe was injured in the first Finals and Sixers got a fluke game.

[Myth]

Maybe they win in 2001.

[Rocketswin2013]

So you take Shaq out of the league?It would be like saying KD would win "at least one" with LeBron out of the league. Basically it's not saying much.

A better question would be switch Peak Shaq and Webber

And guess what, they run the league too.

[IllegalD]

So you take Shaq out of the league?It would be like saying KD would win "at least one" with LeBron out of the league. Basically it's not saying much.

A better question would be switch Peak Shaq and Webber

And guess what, they run the league too.

Well, Shaq never won as the man without Kobe, even with having talented teammates his whole career. Only other time he won without Kobe was as a sidekick and with a player that is Kobe-esque when in top form.

So Shaq ain't winning with anyone else from that era that isn't Kobe, unless that someone else happens to be called Tim Duncan. (don't give me any of this TMac, Carter, Iverson nonsense. Shaq couldn't win with Penny, or the talented Laker teams of the mid-later 90's, he ain't winning with those fools)

[Roundball_Rock]

The 2000-2002 Lakers were 0.500 when Shaq did not play.

[riseagainst]

01 and 02 are guaranteed.
00 Kobe wasn't the player he was in starting in 01.
But his power level doubled in 1 off season.... crazy.

[Rocketswin2013]

Would Kobe be the best player on the team from '00 to '01? I am being genuine. The stats are very close with Webber having the edge in PER, WS, and DRTG. Almost as many asists and points, just on better efficiency and his rebounds are much better.