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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash31
    Seriously Really?

    Your main argument is Lebrons jumpshots
    were open so its not impressive
    bc he was supposed to make them,
    Wow the stupidity and ignorance on you.

    Doesnt matter HOW you make your shots,open,contested,rim
    whatever
    you still made them.

    Let me guess,to you clutch is considered shooting over two defenders 15ft plus
    out and layups dont count or if youre open.

    You probably hate shaq too,bc he only scored near the rim
    so it doesnt count as impressive
    unless its a jumpshot.

    The sheer ignorance of your statement

    You mustve hated Greens performance bc he was taking and making wide open 3s,thats what hes supposed to do right make them at a 60% clip having 18 ppg
    right?

    Logic and common sense you dont have
    With all due respect you are ignorant in bball if you do not believe that a player should not take and knock down wide open jump shots. Pop would NEVER guard any other superstar wing player that way, just LeBron, and there is a reason why. LeBron failing to score at will with the defense he faced considering how they played him is actually a relevant and strong argument.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    These stans running scared talking bout he grabbed 10rpg, I'm talking bout his big drop in fg%. Why is fg% only brought up when it comes to Kobe? Lebron's is just as bad That's a fact. Explain him shooting 30% outside the paint? Explain this? That's horrible. lol.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    44> 41

    You're welcome for your math lesson.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    44> 41

    You're welcome for your math lesson.
    When it is that close then context becomes even that more important.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho
    Probably because there were more efficient players on the Lakers that Kobe was taking shots from.

    Lebron was the most efficient player on his team, he was the best option and still wasn't chucking.
    If starting games 3-14 and 3-11 isn't chucking, what's it called? Sucking?

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7_cody
    With all due respect you are ignorant in bball if you do not believe that a player should not take and knock down wide open jump shots. Pop would NEVER guard any other superstar wing player that way, just LeBron, and there is a reason why. LeBron failing to score at will with the defense he faced considering how they played him is actually a relevant and strong argument.
    The Spurs were baiting him. They WANTED LeBron to fall in love with the jumper. The strategy wasn't about LeBron being a poor shooter, because he's been outstanding from the perimeter all year. It was the Spurs refusing to let him get to the rim at any cost. They were content with him taking and making jumpers in the hope that he would settle and play less aggressively. They defended Wade the exact same way. Both were able to knock down jumpers in game 7 and that ultimately won the game.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeApe
    The Spurs were baiting him. They WANTED LeBron to fall in love with the jumper. The strategy wasn't about LeBron being a poor shooter, because he's been outstanding from the perimeter all year. It was the Spurs refusing to let him get to the rim at any cost. They were content with him taking and making jumpers in the hope that he would settle and play less aggressively. They defended Wade the exact same way. Both were able to knock down jumpers in game 7 and that ultimately won the game.
    That actually is a pretty clever excuse.

    The truth is LeBron should fall in love with his jumpshot if they give him the open look all game long. He should fall in love with it, and he should make them. But he couldn't, until game 7. Dirk would have fallen in love with it. He would have set the Finals scoring record. So would Durant. So would many other superstar wing players.

    You can still defend a player tight and prevent him from getting to the rim (no, you cannot do this to LeBron on single coverage - well, maybe Diaw can ;)-) That kind of defense is actually less humiliating to the superstar wing player.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Why do people act like Kobe is Ben Gordon or something? He's an above average playmaker, and in his prime (MOST of those finals), an ELITE defender.

    I'm totally trolling I don't understand why anyone really cares about field goal percentage when you're winning.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by StocktonFan
    Are we also comparing celtics defense to spurs defense this year? I mean for lebron it was open jumpshot after jumpshot
    They were leaving him the jump shot but making sure he wasn't able to get in the lane because even the best jump shooters in the league only make about 44% of their jump shots on average (and that's being generous, considering the average is closer to about 38%). Lebron could've just taken those all game and even if he had made them at a good clip, it doesn't really help the Heat at all and the Spurs were never going to guard it even he was making them at an insane clip because it never really maximized his points per possession nor does it get the rest of his team involved.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve
    They were leaving him the jump shot but making sure he wasn't able to get in the lane because even the best jump shooters in the league only make about 44% of their jump shots on average (and that's being generous, considering the average is closer to about 38%). Lebron could've just taken those all game and even if he had made them at a good clip, it doesn't really help the Heat at all and the Spurs were never going to guard it even he was making them at an insane clip because it never really maximized his points per possession nor does it get the rest of his team involved.
    A team can still guard his jumpshot while preventing him from getting to the lane. The Spurs begged him to shoot. There is a big difference. They could have played him tight and shut down the lane from him.

    You can't really do this to LeBron on single coverage, but with help defense and proper rotations it can be done. Teams do it to Kobe all the time. Do you really think that teams are giving Kobe the lane when the guard him tight? No, they are glued to him every second and the defense is rotated to stop Kobe from driving if he breaks down the initial defender.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    44 > 41

    And the 44 includes Lebron's Cleveland series, in which he had no teammates to rely on (oh, and he was also 22 years old in it...but nobody ever gives Lebron a pass for being so young, because he was so amazing at a young age). Kobe had Shaq in 2004 yet still decided to chuck inefficiently.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    LeBron failed to shoot at least 45% in only one NBA Finals. Kobe on the other hand has shot below 42% in 5 of his 7 NBA Finals. Sub-40% in 2 of them.

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Wait a second?

    Kobe being defended at the three point line is a bad thing? LeBron being given open space on his jumpers isn't because of how much teams fear his drive but because his jumper plain sucks. Simple.

    Kobe opens up the paint for guys like Gasol (whose most efficeint and productive years came alongside Kobe. And he's a known cherry picker "Gasoft"). He creates space in close, by drawing in defenses from EVERYWHERE not just the paint. LeBron lets opponents pack the paint, where, if you ever played basketball, you'd know it is easier to score from lol. Which is better for a team?

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    delusional Kobe stans




    if they guard Kobe close, why doesn't he take it to the rim? Durant does it all the time. The threat of his jump shot has made his driving game deadly and he's explosive off the first step.

    Kobe on the other hand is not a great driver to the rim, he's not as great at finishing at the rim as LeBron. That's a skill. If you dudes think it's so easy to drive and finish, how come you clowns can't do it? Why aren't you in the NBA? You ****s probably couldn't even drive and finish in High School


    You can say what you want about them giving Bron the jumper....but they gave him the jumper because they're afraid of his ability to penetrate and not only score but pass as well

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    Default Re: Kobe gets so much s**t for his Finals fg%, but Lebron gets a pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Lebrons FG dips more than Kobes in the Finals.. is what this fine gentleman is getting at.

    And its 100% true
    lebrons fg% dips a lot more than kobes in the finals yet he STILL shoots a better % than kobe. hilarious

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