WOAT 2nd option championship production

[Nilocon165]

What exactly did Wade do in those games that Chalmers, Battier, Miller couldnt?

Average 27.5 ppg in those games

[Dray n Klay]

Average 27.5 ppg in those games

Ok, that's like battier, charmers, Miller averaging 9 points each



9 X 3 = 27




Nothing they couldn't do

[Nilocon165]

Ok, that's like battier, charmers, Miller averaging 9 points each



9 X 3 = 27




Nothing they couldn't do

Do you find it funny to just post stupid shit on a message board?

[Nilocon165]

[3ball]

Yet the Bulls were able to close out the Sonics with MJ averaging 23 points on 36%.

[COLOR="Red"]Is it because he faced weaker competition or his team was stacked?
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It's because the Bulls were half-assing it at that point in the series.

After Jordan's 31 ppg on 46% got the Bulls a 3-0 lead, the ENTIRE TEAM played like shit because they had 3 chances to win 1 game..

Otoh, Lebron's shitty play thru the first 3 games (17.3 ppg) forced his team to go 7 games and necessitated Ray Allen's miracle.

Yet the Bulls were able to close out the Sonics

Jordan's 22/9/7 led the team in Game 6, while holding Hawkins to 4 points, or 12 points below his average - this is significant, since the Bulls WON by 12, and everyone else let their man go off: Pippen let Schrempf get 23 points on 59%, Harper let Payton get 21 points on 70%, and Rodman let Kemp get 18/10 on 47%.

So Jordan's team-leading scoring, assists and defense was the hero of Game 6... And in Game 5, he shot 9-18 for 26 points, so he only had 1 bad game in the series - Game 4.. And we know why his Game 4 was bad - right before the game, he told a reporter that "this is the most relaxed I've ever been in a Finals"... A 3-0 blowout lead will do that.

[GrapeApe]

Ok, that's like battier, charmers, Miller averaging 9 points each



9 X 3 = 27




Nothing they couldn't do

You're not even trying anymore.

But hey, if Battier, Chalmers, and Miller averaged 8.3/3.7/2.3 on 45%, the Heat didn't even need Lebron! Nothing they couldn't do.

[Dray n Klay]

You're not even trying anymore.

But hey, if Battier, Chalmers, and Miller averaged 8.3/3.7/2.3 on 45%, the Heat didn't even need Lebron! Nothing they couldn't do.

You can't admit that Wade was ruining the Heats offensive efficiency and spacing while on the court in the 2013 playoffs??

[LostCause]

You can't admit that Wade was ruining the Heats offensive efficiency and spacing while on the court in the 2013 playoffs??

Wade played good defense that series, and the spacing was a matter of neither Bron nor Wade being able to space the floor to benefit each other. Both of them were being stonewalled due to this. Both of them played better when spacing was available by either one of them not being on the floor

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/44...-finals-game-6

[fourkicks44]

Duncan and Dirk were OUTPLAYED by their 2nd options in the Finals.



Manu outplayed Duncan in the 2005 Finals


Terry outplayed Dirk in the 2011 Finals




How can it be WOAT production, if they outplayed the 1st option in the Finals??

Terry didn't outplay Dirk in the 2011 Finals.

Terry definitely outplayed Lebron in the 2011 Finals.

[Prime_Shaq]

Hakeem?

[Bawkish]

LOL at the logic "we don't need Player A's 30 ppg coz we got players B,C & D 8 ppgs to suffice"

[J Shuttlesworth]

LeBron won a championship with this 2nd option production:


15.9 points 4.6 rebounds 4.8 assists 45.7% FG








Has Kobe/Jordan ever won a championship with worse 2nd option help?

One player that has won a championship with worse 2nd option help was Shaq in the 2000 Finals

2nd option: 15.6 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 4.2 APG 36.7% FG

[SouBeachTalents]

'94 Hakeem & '03 Duncan were worse

[3ball]

Wade played good defense that series, and the spacing was a matter of neither Bron nor Wade being able to space the floor to benefit each other. Both of them were being stonewalled due to this. Both of them played better when spacing was available by either one of them not being on the floor

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/44...-finals-game-6

I agree with the article, but I don't think that Wade/Lebron's lack of shooting and ability to space for each other was the ONLY reason the Heat don't play their best with both on the floor.

Obviously, both players are ball-dominators who achieve their maximum production as ball-dominant players - but unfortunately, only 1 ball-dominator can dribble at a time..

The problem is that NEITHER player has a sophisticated off-ball game they can use to achieve maximum production.. For example, neither guy can isolate QUICKLY upon the catch like this, or this, which would allow them to thrive off-ball while the other guy dominates the ball.
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[Jasper]

LeBron won a championship with this 2nd option production:


15.9 points 4.6 rebounds 4.8 assists 45.7% FG








Has Kobe/Jordan ever won a championship with worse 2nd option help?

Poster preppin for a mediocre season for Curry , so numbers will look less to brag it up after finals.