Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Lebron ball is only a thing when he is playing with complete scrubs or 4 shooters.
You're in complete denial and ignoring the facts
Lebron-ball doesn't reduce basic role players or spot-up shooters - so it ISN'T a problem when lebron plays with 4 shooters like you claimed it was
It's only a problem when he plays with guys that are MORE than basic role players/spot-up shooters, like Clarkson and Hood, or all-pros Wade, Bosh, Love, etc..
And that's part of your problem - you view Clarkson and Hood as "complete scrubs or just shooters" as you said in your post - but if that was the case, then Lebron-ball wouldn't have reduced them.. the reality is that Hood was a 17 ppg scorer in Utah, and Clarkson is a known 1-on-1 expert.. So they're MORE than basic role players or spot-up shooters, and therefore got reduced by Lebron-ball
So get your facts right about your own favorite player..
Originally Posted by Stronglurk
It's usually an elite offensive system on it's own
Have lebron's offenses ever been viewed as equal to the warriors?.. how about previous spurs teams, or this year's rockets?
No - his offenses have never been viewed as this caliber, and the stats show this - his best teams had lower ORtg and league-ranking to the warriors/spurs/rockets (lebron-ball has never been ranked #1 or 2..
Btw, when a team is playing catch-up and expending energy to outscore the opponent, it hurts their defense.. So lebron's inferior offense to the warriors/spurs hurts their defense too..
And when a team is trying to get stops and be good defensively, it hurts their offense - so Lebron-ball isn't a good enough offense versus the warriors/spurs to handle the extra drain/requirements of defending them
Ultimately, anytime the inferior Lebron-ball falls behind on the scoreboard, it must either save energy on offense to play better defense, or save energy on defense to catch up on offense.. either way, his team is screwed by playing lebron-ball versus better systems