Wizards turned down James Harden for Bradley Beal and Chris Singleton

[hawkfan]

I criticized it when it happened. It's an awful move. If they didn't already have Nene it'd be good. But Nene is already there. Do they want to run? Do they wanna play halfcourt? Do they wanna clog their team with quality players who aren't going to be the difference? It was an awful move. You don't have to go overboard to change culture.


And what continuity? They suck. Okafor, Ariza, Beal...all new, so no continuity. Getting Harden and maxing him means continuity, does it not? Why would they trade Nene?

Send Okafor to the Hawks for expirers, and then spend your money on free agents next season.

[Whoah10115]

Send Okafor to the Hawks for expirers, and then spend your money on free agents next season.

You would prefer Smith play SF? Cuz I think that's an awful idea, for the most part.

[hawkfan]

You would prefer Smith play SF? Cuz I think that's an awful idea, for the most part.

Depends on matchups.
Okafor and Pachulia at center saves wear and tear on Horford.
Okafor is a clear upgrade over Johan Petro.

[Whoah10115]

Depends on matchups.
Okafor and Pachulia at center saves wear and tear on Horford.
Okafor is a clear upgrade over Johan Petro.

Okafor is a clear upgrade over Pachulia. Put him on a good team and he's a very good player.

[ClutchOver9000]

Wizards gonna Wiz...

[hawkfan]

Okafor is a clear upgrade over Pachulia. Put him on a good team and he's a very good player.

He can start and Pachulia off the bench. That's fine.
Okafor would definitely be helpful to the Hawks.
If the Wizards don't want him, send him to Atlanta.
He would also be insurance in case Josh bolts after this summer, which is possible.

[bagelred]

Keeping Wall and Harden on big max deals and getting rid of Okafor and Nene means they have to somehow find money to spend on bigs down the line with less money around.

This is nonsense.

They'll have plenty of money. Wall and Harden will be their two cornerstones going forward. Everyone else is expendable.

Wall and Harden are almost the same age. They'd grow together. It's hard to understand Wizards perspective if this is true.....Okafor and Ariza's contracts will be off the books very soon, and you could always trade Nene for cap space and picks if you are worried about money. He's still a very desirable player.

[FireDavidKahn]

as much as my first reaction was to laugh out loud, beal is eerily similar to harden coming out of college

Except not nearly as good in any area of the game.

[Kurosawa0]

Not saying Beal is going to be as good as Harden, but...

Harden's rookie year: 10 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 apg in 23 minutes.

Beal? 12 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 apg in 28 minutes.

Harden shot it better, but it's not like those are very different numbers.

[R.I.P.]

PG Wall
SG Harden
SF Not Vesely
PF Nene
C Okafor

That should be a play-off team in the East.

[Whoah10115]

Not saying Beal is going to be as good as Harden, but...

Harden's rookie year: 10 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 apg in 23 minutes.

Beal? 12 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 apg in 28 minutes.

Harden shot it better, but it's not like those are very different numbers.

Harden did it on a 50win team, not the 0-12 and 3-15 (they're .500 lately!) Washington Wizards.

[Kurosawa0]

Harden did it on a 50win team, not the 0-12 and 3-15 (they're .500 lately!) Washington Wizards.

Put Beal on OKC and he does it on a 50 win team too. I'm not saying Beal will be as good as Harden, but it's not ridiculous for Washington to not have given up the 3rd pick in the draft for a more expensive player that plays the same position.

I wouldn't have done it either.

[Whoah10115]

Put Beal on OKC and he does it on a 50 win team too. I'm not saying Beal will be as good as Harden, but it's not ridiculous for Washington to not have given up the 3rd pick in the draft for a more expensive player that plays the same position.

I wouldn't have done it either.

It is ridiculous and indefensible. Beal is a shooter who hasn't shown himself to be a great shooter yet. He's no playmaker like Harden was even as a rookie.


Even as a 6th man Harden had already established himself as a star. The #3 pick still has to live up to it. Harden already had. He put up an all-star season from the bench, on a team that went to the Finals. And despite how he played in the Finals, he beasted throughout the playoffs.


Your only excuse for not making that trade is if you flat out think Beal has something extra. There is just no argument for any winning club to not make that trade. Harden is also a #3 pick and already high-end quality. Not to mention that it gives Wall a reason to not hate being on the team.

[Kurosawa0]

Your only excuse for not making that trade is if you flat out think Beal has something extra. There is just no argument for any winning club to not make that trade. Harden is also a #3 pick and already high-end quality. Not to mention that it gives Wall a reason to not hate being on the team.

You don't trade a top 3 pick for the 6th man of the year. Especially not when that 6th man of the year is going to make $80 million and Beal is on a rookie deal.

It's probably the same reason Golden State didn't want to trade Klay Thompson for Harden either.

And just because Harden was on a team that went to the Finals, doesn't make him a winning player. We don't know that yet. His career status really isn't that much different than Josh Howard's after the 2006 Dallas run. Look how that turned out.

[Clifton]

You don't trade a top 3 pick for the 6th man of the year.

You're a moron.

Does your face have eyes in it? Try using them.