Bigger Finals Choke: 2004 Kobe or 2016 Curry?

[Mr Feeny]

KoME deviating from the system, trying to win his 1st FMVP in 4 tries and totally un-coachable...... is the reason why.

Exactly right

Worst finals performance in nba history. So selfish and horrific that his own coach immediately wrote a book ripping him for


Nothing will ever compare to how awful 2004 Kobrick was. 38 percent. Yikes

[Doranku]

As long as you admit it was the worst performance by any superstar in finals history

LeBron averaging 17,7,8 on 47% while winning 2 games against the team that swept and embarassed kobrick 2 rounds earlier is choking for his standards? Maybe so bc he's a top 3 goat.

For Kobrick standards 47% is one of his all time performances

lol are you actually trying to defend LeBron's 2011 finals performance? He averaged like two points in the 4th quarter and got out-scored by a bench player.

[Mr Feeny]

lol are you actually trying to defend LeBron's 2011 finals performance? He averaged like two points in the 4th quarter and got out-scored by a bench player.

Lebron 2011 has nothing to do with this thread. Read the title.
We're over here reminiscing about he worst Finals performance of all time - Mr 38% back in 2004

[Fudge]

Mista...

Thirty Eight!

We See You!

[Chokefree]

If kobe isnt that good.....why keep bringing him up every single fvcking day? I dont get it? You are still talking about a retired player like he is still in his PRIME just shows you how much kobe mind fvcked yall!

[Real Cavs Fan]

If kobe isnt that good.....why keep bringing him up every single fvcking day? I dont get it? You are still talking about a retired player like he is still in his PRIME just shows you how much kobe mind fvcked yall!

I would like a large oreo Mcflurry and a medium order of fries.

[Fudge]

I would like a large oreo Mcflurry and a medium order of fries.

[Quickening]

because he was being selfish, dummy.. a lot of idiots, much like yourself if you had been watching back then, disparaged him for his superstar contributions in previous years and he tried to do too much.



It wasnt a "choke" though.. 2011 Bran is in the dictionary as an example for that word, and its hilarious hearing you guys throw the term around because it will always boomerang right back at you lol

Of course it is a choke, did you see his shooting numbers... 22 ppg on 38 percent fg, and 17 percent from 3... efg% of 39.8 is horrendous. Worst shooting performance of a superstar in a finals ever.

I don't care what the defence is like, someone who is regarded as a top 12 player ever, primarily based on their offence shouldn't be shooting like chit for a whole series in their prime especially when the opposition's defensive schemes as based around another player.

He choked, like Lebron choked in 2011... Lebron ended up becoming too passive, and Kobe just lost the plot on the court.

Kobes was by far the more detrimental to the team, replace him with any decent player who will feed it into Shaq and the lakers win.

[feyki]

Kobe - 22 PPG with %46 TS , 90 Ortg

Lebron - 22 PPG , %43 TS , 84 Ortg

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2007 Spurs - 99 Drtg , %47 Efg(defensive)

2004 Pistons - 95 Drtg , %44 Efg(D)


Beside of scoring , Kobe had the advantage on defence while Lebron had on all around game ( feeding teammates , more efforts on boards etc . )

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[tpols]

Kobe - 22 PPG with %46 TS , 90 Ortg

Lebron - 22 PPG , %43 TS , 84 Ortg

..

2007 Spurs - 99 Drtg , %47 Efg(defensive)

2004 Pistons - 95 Drtg , %44 Efg(D)


Beside of scoring , Kobe had the advantage on defence while Lebron had on all around game ( feeding teammates , more efforts on boards etc . )

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bingo.

that's a good comparison.. nobody says Bron choked versus the spurs.. he just got locked up. Layups and the paint in general was denied and he was turned into a jumpshooter where he shot like sh!t.. he didnt mentally fold in 07.. just had no answer but still somewhat went down swinging.

[Bankaii]

Kobe lost to a team without a true superstar while having the MDE trying to carry him.
Curry lost to LeBeast and Kyire but played much worse overall.

Overall both are two of the worst Finals performers of all time for any ATG.

[34-24 Footwork]

People bringing up performances from a retired player that happened 12 years ago...

And comparing it to a player whose coming off his 2nd MVP In a row.


That's how good Kobe was.....

Dude still dominates the basketball conversation in 2016.

Let that sink in.

[plowking]

Kobe - 22 PPG with %46 TS , 90 Ortg

Lebron - 22 PPG , %43 TS , 84 Ortg

..

2007 Spurs - 99 Drtg , %47 Efg(defensive)

2004 Pistons - 95 Drtg , %44 Efg(D)


Beside of scoring , Kobe had the advantage on defence while Lebron had on all around game ( feeding teammates , more efforts on boards etc . )

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Did you post this thinking you discovered something or simply found a great rebuttal to this thread?

Clearly this is the same situation. Clearly both were heavy favourites going into the series.

Your disdain for Bron is hilarious because you actually spend time on here trying to convince yourself more than others how average he is.

[plowking]

People bringing up performances from a retired player that happened 12 years ago...

And comparing it to a player whose coming off his 2nd MVP In a row.


That's how good Kobe was.....

Dude still dominates the basketball conversation in 2016.

Let that sink in.

For all the right reasons.

[34-24 Footwork]

Did you post this thinking you discovered something or simply found a great rebuttal to this thread?

Clearly this is the same situation. Clearly both were heavy favourites going into the series.

Your disdain for Bron is hilarious because you actually spend time on here trying to convince yourself more than others how average he is.

I've always advocated that 2007 finals was waaaay worse than 2011 for Lebron.

2011 he checked out because he didn't have a jumper and the entire world knew it

2007...he actually tried which resulted in 6 to's per game and a nasty lockdown.