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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    lets be honest Lakers fans

    throwing m8s of kobe under the bus is poor.
    i mean, if you have someone in your team, taking at least 25 shots a game, often way more (37 e.g.), HOW the hell his teamm8s can get warm for their shots?

    explain it to me

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    the real reason the Lakers are losing is because they are a shit team, with shitty players, Kobe included. i mean okay, he's a good scorer. but on defense, he lays the red carpet for opponents right to the rim.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReal Kendall
    What happen to Linsanity?
    FLUKE

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Lin Was And Will Allways Be The Marginal Scrub Stephen a Smith Called Out Years ago Bro.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    I thought it was because the Lakers are playing in the NBA

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    People said the same crap about Kobe before. However, once he got some players around him, he won championships. Kobe is a championship piece. He just needs some other pieces to make it work. Right now, Swaggy P, Carlos Boozer, etc aren't working.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by Foster5k
    People said the same crap about Kobe before. However, once he got some players around him, he won championships. Kobe is a championship piece. He just needs some other pieces to make it work. Right now, Swaggy P, Carlos Boozer, etc aren't working.
    Swaggy hasn't played since Kobe hurt him...

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by tgan3
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/kobe...ers-shot-stats

    Only 3 players have attempted more shots than his misses.
    Carmelo is 34-of-75, Griffin is 41-of-82, and Harden is 31-of-80.

    I'm not saying Lin is great, he is bad but the real reason lakers are losing right now is kobe jacking up shots. As per quoted, "Bryant went 14-of-37 against the Suns Tuesday, bringing his season field-goal percentage to 40.2. Bryant has attempted 122 shots this year and missed 73 of them."

    If you are going to attempt so many shots at a mediocre FG% then you are going to lose more often then win plain and simple.
    Did you know Iverson's FG% hovered around 39-41% from 2000-02 and they actually went deep in the playoffs in the East, even winning the ECF in 2001?
    I'm not saying Kobe's high volume of shots is not a problem, yes, he can pass and get involve his teammates more, and that can inspire them to play harder and better etc. But the main problem is their defense.
    Its not also just the no. of shots taken but from where it is taken as in he takes too many low% shots where the defense is all set to rebound as compared to Iverson's attack and penetrate mode, allowing for more easy put backs and FTs attempts etc.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Some of you never played basketball, it's that obvious.

    Kobe taking that many shots has an effect on teammates, specially if the shots aren't going in and he's forcing shots.

    As a player, you get down, you lose a bit of interest, and that translates on the defensive end. When the ball is moving and you're a part of the offense, you're more willing to share and run the offense overall. This also leads to a better defensive effort overall. There's more 'team' work and talking involved.

    If you got a dude taking that many shots and missing, you all but basically give up.

    Kobe is a great playmaker when he wants to be. A great player/playmaker like Kobe should be able to create for his teammates. When Kobe is missing so much AND playing crappy defense, players will tune him out and the effort on both sides will diminish.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    You're right, Kobe should pass more to Boozer.
    he should CREATE for boozer, and other players

    any big in under the basket can shoot 60%

    no reason for him to go under 40

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Some of you never played basketball, it's that obvious.

    Kobe taking that many shots has an effect on teammates, specially if the shots aren't going in and he's forcing shots.

    As a player, you get down, you lose a bit of interest, and that translates on the defensive end. When the ball is moving and you're a part of the offense, you're more willing to share and run the offense overall. This also leads to a better defensive effort overall. There's more 'team' work and talking involved.

    If you got a dude taking that many shots and missing, you all but basically give up.

    Kobe is a great playmaker when he wants to be. A great player/playmaker like Kobe should be able to create for his teammates. When Kobe is missing so much AND playing crappy defense, players will tune him out and the effort on both sides will diminish.

    exhibit cheap shot: why you will never see someone make a thread saying "Steve Nash is leading the league in scoring, effortlessly"

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Some of you never played basketball, it's that obvious.

    Kobe taking that many shots has an effect on teammates, specially if the shots aren't going in and he's forcing shots.

    As a player, you get down, you lose a bit of interest, and that translates on the defensive end. When the ball is moving and you're a part of the offense, you're more willing to share and run the offense overall. This also leads to a better defensive effort overall. There's more 'team' work and talking involved.

    If you got a dude taking that many shots and missing, you all but basically give up.

    Kobe is a great playmaker when he wants to be. A great player/playmaker like Kobe should be able to create for his teammates. When Kobe is missing so much AND playing crappy defense, players will tune him out and the effort on both sides will diminish.


    Most of Kobe's current teammates are getting more offensive opportunities than they ever had in their entire NBA careers yet somehow that translates into being too demoralized to play any defense. Strong logic

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Some of you never played basketball, it's that obvious.

    Kobe taking that many shots has an effect on teammates, specially if the shots aren't going in and he's forcing shots.

    As a player, you get down, you lose a bit of interest, and that translates on the defensive end. When the ball is moving and you're a part of the offense, you're more willing to share and run the offense overall. This also leads to a better defensive effort overall. There's more 'team' work and talking involved.

    If you got a dude taking that many shots and missing, you all but basically give up.

    Kobe is a great playmaker when he wants to be. A great player/playmaker like Kobe should be able to create for his teammates. When Kobe is missing so much AND playing crappy defense, players will tune him out and the effort on both sides will diminish.
    Good post. Not too many here have actually played the game in an organized level, obviously.

    It worked in Philly for a few years with AI, you know, chucking the hell out of the ball. The 76ers were still successful due to the fact that AI was surrounded by a bunch of no-pride mostly defense only players.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishACB
    he should CREATE for boozer, and other players

    any big in under the basket can shoot 60%

    no reason for him to go under 40
    You dont even watch the games dumbass. He's created plenty for Boozer who misses literally wide open layups.

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    Default Re: Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot


    Most of Kobe's current teammates are getting more offensive opportunities than they ever had in their entire NBA careers yet somehow that translates into being too demoralized to play any defense. Strong logic
    Now back it up with facts. How many exactly flourished with him, getting more pts, and higher FG% as compared to them playing elsewhere?
    Glen Rice? Swaggy? Nash? Payton and Malone? Blake? Sessions?

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