What ISH taught me about current era defense

[3ball]

Today's defenses are forced to make more rotations because they must cover extra ground created by spacing, while also abiding by defensive 3 seconds.

But the difficulty of scoring itself hasn't changed - you either have extra rotations required by spacing and defensive 3 seconds (today's game), or the rotations aren't necessary because there is no spacing or defensive 3 seconds (previous eras)..

Without having to get into the weeds, the response above gives the proper perspective when new fans say today's defenses are more sophisticated.

[dhsilv]

It isn't backed up by the number of 25 point scorers:

25 point scorers from 2001-2015: 92
25 point scorers from 1984-1998: 87


Of course, isolations are easier today because the spacing gives players more time and room with the ball, and bigger driving lanes - this isn't disputable - it's physics.. Additionally, screen-rolls are a two-man isolations and they're spaced far better than they used to be, which allows them to be used far more often.

Screen-rolls and isolations represent over 50% of any guard or SF's offense in today's game - this is fact - we have the data.. This is much more than previous eras, when screen-roll wasn't used very often.. Screen-roll was only used to hit the big man rolling or pick-n-pop for long two-pointer - this is much less efficient and spaced much worse than today's drive-and-kick for elite 3-point shooting.

Btw, Kobe won 2 rings in 2009 and 2010 with the triangle.

We've already shown that 2008-current (the modern defensive era) has had lower high volume scorers. You've posted this crap and you've been refuted. Why are you still posting information that you know was gathered without context and posting it to argue a point it does not prove?

Seriously dude. What is wrong with you?

[3ball]

We've already shown that 2008-current (the modern defensive era) has had lower high volume scorers. You've posted this crap and you've been refuted. Why are you still posting information that you know was gathered without context and posting it to argue a point it does not prove?

Seriously dude. What is wrong with you?

You get really melodramatic about basic stats you don't like.. .. deal with it:

25 point scorers from 2001-2015: 92
25 point scorers from 1984-1998: 87

[dhsilv]

You get really melodramatic about basic stats you don't like.. .. deal with it:

25 point scorers from 2001-2015: 92
25 point scorers from 1984-1998: 87

Meh fine.

As I said 25+ point scoring is down under the modern rules.

But to your point here's a picture of a cat. My cat picture has more value than your stats....

[3ball]

25 point scorers from 2001-2015: 92
25 point scorers from 1984-1998: 87

25+ point scoring is down under the modern rules (2005-2015)

You're sample size is 10 years and mine is 14.. So what about 30+ scoring?

That's what I thought
.

[dhsilv]

You're sample size is 10 years and mine is 14.. So what about 30+ scoring?

That's what I thought
.

30 point scoring was cited as well and you know this. You know why your sample range is meaningless as well.

You still haven't explained the pretty kitty though. You're just going to dodge it?

[3ball]

30 point scoring was cited as well and you know this.

There were only two 30 point scorers in the 90's, compared to eight from 2000-2010.

Apparently, it was much easier to be a bigtime scorer like MJ in the 2000's..

[LoneyROY7]

Damn. MJ was so overrated due to illegal defense.

[3ball]

Damn. MJ was so overrated due to illegal defense.

Let's compare the eras:

[COLOR="Indigo"]PREVIOUS ERA:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] paint-camping... no-spacing... hand-checking[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]TODAY'S ERA:[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR] shading..[COLOR="White"].........[/COLOR] spacing.. [COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]no hand-checking[/COLOR]


Remember, Wade and Westbrook led league in scoring in 2009 and 2015 with a worse 3-point shot and far worse mid-range shot than MJ.. Nor could they double-pump with ease from the FT line like MJ..

That's why he averaged 37 ppg on all two-pointers, and still shot 59% ts.. No one in today's game could even average 25 ppg on all two's.

[ShawkFactory]

Damn. 3ball avoiding that cat picture like the plague

[dhsilv]

There were only two 30 point scorers in the 90's, compared to eight from 2000-2010.

Apparently, it was much easier to be a bigtime scorer like MJ in the 2000's..

playing dumb for what reason? We are at least in the second if not third era post jordan. The first two years of JOrdan likely were a different era than the majority of his run for that matter.

But here I am doing the same thing I keep doing.....

[dhsilv]

Damn. 3ball avoiding that cat picture like the plague

no counter to the cat man!

[sd3035]

tldr: Today's defenses are better and more sophisticated than they have ever been.

This is the correct answer

Jordan would be a worse shooting JR Smith in today's league

[3ball]

very nice, but not believable.

[swagga]

tldr -> MJ