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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rowe
This is the last time this will ever happen.
LOLcats aren't on our schedule anymore.
I cant believe Melo's now become self-conscious about his "shooting" due to the media pressure. He needs to look for his shot, he cant be worried about people calling him a "chucker" or "black hole". Hes our best scorer and we need him to score. Kobe's took the same approach and he doesnt give a ****. Melo needs to do the same.
He abolutely does not. Shot-clock-eating-isolation-chucking is never a good idea. You sound like someone who would rather have Melo put up big scoring numbers than have the Knicks win games.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rowe
Glad you removed that trade.
I was ready to reach through the screen and slap you.
Thinking about it I wasn't sure if Morris was a SF or PF. He's, like, 6'8", I think. I think he's a PF, but he can shoot the three. With Nash getting him open looks.
Melo for D-Will and change would make the Knicks a better team.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Always thought that Melo should be more of a decoy to Chandler & Stat. Similar to the role Lebron takes in Miami. Because there is only one Kobe Bryant. If Carmelo tries to be Kobe everynight he wont win a game.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Scoooter
Thinking about it I wasn't sure if Morris was a SF or PF. He's, like, 6'8", I think. I think he's a PF, but he can shoot the three. With Nash getting him open looks.
Melo for D-Will and change would make the Knicks a better team.
Markeiff is a 6'10 PF.
His twin brother Marcus is the one who wants to be a SF in the mold, ironically, of Carmelo Anthony. (srs)
& I would never do a Melo for D-Will deal unless we had an answer at SG or SF who can be relied upon.
Much rather live with Baron at PG and Melo at SF than D-Will at PG and Bill Walker at SF.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rowe
Markeiff is a 6'10 PF.
His twin brother Marcus is the one who wants to be a SF in the mold, ironically, of Carmelo Anthony. (srs)
Ah.
& I would never do a Melo for D-Will deal unless we had an answer at SG or SF who can be relied upon.
Much rather live with Baron at PG and Melo at SF than D-Will at PG and Bill Walker at SF.
I disagree. I could see us playing Shumpert at the two and sliding Fields over to the three. With D-Will running the pick and roll, those two would get a lot of wide open shots.
An elite PG like D-Will or Nash makes everyone on the team better. Melo hasn't demonstrated the ability to make anyone better. In fact, so far it's been just the opposite.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Scoooter
He abolutely does not. Shot-clock-eating-isolation-chucking is never a good idea. You sound like someone who would rather have Melo put up big scoring numbers than have the Knicks win games.
We're not facing a terrible team like the LOLcats every night and you can't expect that he can play an entire game without scoring and win the game.
What the **** do you expect Melo to do? Score 15 points and get 8 Assists? You're the ****ing dumbass who thinks we need to run our offense through Amare via the Pick & Roll because its "too effective". Really? When was this? It certainly wasn't in New York. We can try to do that all game against Miami or any other team not owned by Michael Jordan, and its still going to come down to Melo to win us the game by carrying the team on his back.
You're nonsense hate for him is annoying considering you pull the same bullshit in every thread. We understand that he isn't a Point Forward, he has mediocre court vision, and our spacing is so terrible that everybody ends up in an isolation situation. We understand our ball movement will be better when Baron can handle the ball and Melo can get it back out to him to find an open shooter instead of Melo taking a bad shot. Placing all the blame on Melo for our losses is ridiculous, but thats your job to be an ignorant dumbass who suggests a Melo trade at every opportunity.
We're not moving Melo for Steve Nash & Markeiff Morris.
We're not moving Melo for Deron Williams & "change".
We're not benching Melo.
We're not using the amnesty clause on Melo.
Grow the **** up.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Melo fields for Dwill + Marshon Brooks id do that.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Uh oh! Melo about to get the Kobe treatment
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rowe
We're not facing a terrible team like the LOLcats every night and you can't expect that he can play an entire game without scoring and win the game.
What the **** do you expect Melo to do? Score 15 points and get 8 Assists? You're the ****ing dumbass who thinks we need to run our offense through Amare via the Pick & Roll because its "too effective". Really? When was this? It certainly wasn't in New York. We can try to do that all game against Miami or any other team not owned by Michael Jordan, and its still going to come down to Melo to win us the game by carrying the team on his back.
You're nonsense hate for him is annoying considering you pull the same bullshit in every thread. We understand that he isn't a Point Forward, he has mediocre court vision, and our spacing is so terrible that everybody ends up in an isolation situation. We understand our ball movement will be better when Baron can handle the ball and Melo can get it back out to him to find an open shooter instead of Melo taking a bad shot. Placing all the blame on Melo for our losses is ridiculous, but thats your job to be an ignorant dumbass who suggests a Melo trade at every opportunity.
We're not moving Melo for Steve Nash & Markeiff Morris.
We're not moving Melo for Deron Williams & "change".
We're not benching Melo.
We're not using the amnesty clause on Melo.
Grow the **** up.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rekindled
Melo fields for Dwill + Marshon Brooks id do that.
Not a chance you guys get Brooks, if a deal happens
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Amare should be the 1st scoring option for the Knicks. Melo needs to play the role of Prime Scottie Pippen, and 1997-2002 Kobe Bryant.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Scoooter
I disagree. I could see us playing Shumpert at the two and sliding Fields over to the three. With D-Will running the pick and roll, those two would get a lot of wide open shots.
Which means absolutely nothing if we dont have a closer. Shumpert & Fields cant be relied on each night to split the load at the SG position on a team that only needs them to do 2 thing: Shoot the 3 & Defense. Both of their shots are off and Iman has no conscious with his shot selection.
We essentially become the 2010 Utah Jazz minus any defensive impact.
We certainly cant be compared to any of those Phoenix teams under D'Antoni if thats what you're trying to hint at.
An elite PG like D-Will or Nash makes everyone on the team better. Melo hasn't demonstrated the ability to make anyone better. In fact, so far it's been just the opposite.
Melo has demonstrated the ability to carry a team throughout an entire game & season. Even if you added Deron or Nash to this team as it stands right now, we'll still rely heavily on Melo stepping up in order to win games considering there is absolutely nobody else on this team that is productive on offense.
Are Deron/Nash & Amare supposed to contribute for 100 points combined?
Its not Melo's fault that Amare is a 1 trick pony who is absolutely worthless unless hes on a team built around feeding him the ball. He's making $20 Million and he cant do anything on the fly, such as getting the ball and creating his own shot. He stands around and looks stupid simply because he has the basketball IQ of a Sweedish Fish.
Yet, we need to add a PG specfically so we can make him our #1 option and run plays everytime down the court so he can contribute something?
& Of all people we need to move our best player for a 37 year old Steve Nash to do it? How about No.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Amare should be the 1st scoring option for the Knicks. Melo needs to play the role of Prime Scottie Pippen, and 1997-2002 Kobe Bryant.
Amare cant be a Jordan nor Shaq type of player.
At no point should Amare be a #1 scoring option for any team thinking about the Playoffs.
His offensive game relies entirely on a PG to get him the ball off of Picks. What happened to his post game? When did he fall in love with 18 footers? Why hasn't he learned how to box out and rebound? At least hes shown a little more effort on defense.
If Amare were a #1 option, in the end you're still stuck trying to get him involved on every offensive possession. You'll win some games, but you'll lose just as many when even that isn't good enough simply because you need someone/something else to put you over the top. Thats specifically why we made the Melo deal, he's supposed to put us over the top but Amare still has to play his part to get it done. So far he hasn't done a damn thing.
Any legit #1 option in this league isn't as entirely dependent on another player as Amare is. He's struggling right now to even be a #2 option.
Melo doesn't need to change his game, its Amare who needs to bring something to the table instead of watching Melo carry the team.
Last edited by Rowe; 01-24-2012 at 11:40 PM.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Scoooter
Im mad.
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Re: Carmelo 1 point(0-7), Knicks win by 33
Originally Posted by Rowe
Im mad.
Straight up mad, lol but understandable, u are passionate about your team. Hope the Knicks work this thing out before panic set in and somebody gets traded to Orlando.
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