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Old 09-28-2015, 01:36 PM   #16
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Fun Fact: Pau Gasol has a higher career playoffs Box Plus Minus and Win shares per 48 minutes than Kobe


youre only proving your analytics favor efficient 7 footers






does that anaylics stuff factor in that gasol is 0-16 as leader without kobe?



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Old 09-28-2015, 01:38 PM   #17
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And there it is

Kenneth gon' Kenneth

His absolute rebuttal for everything is always a team feat, whether it be 2/6 or 5 rings!!! It's the absolute cop out, like calling someone a racist. Effectively dropping out of an argument
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:38 PM   #18
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Fun additional Fact: Pau had a superior Win shares per 48, Box Plus Minus, and Win shares in the 2010 playoffs compared to Kobe


and yet kobe won finals mvp

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Old 09-28-2015, 01:40 PM   #19
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And there it is

Kenneth gon' Kenneth

His absolute rebuttal for everything is always a team feat, whether it be 2/6 or 5 rings!!! It's the absolute cop out, like calling someone a racist. Effectively dropping out of an argument



you can wipe team accomplishments away and i'm pretty sure kobe comes out with 100 times the career pau gasol had


and thus... proving youre analytics are worthless


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Old 09-28-2015, 01:40 PM   #20
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And there it is

Kenneth gon' Kenneth

His absolute rebuttal for everything is always a team feat, whether it be 2/6 or 5 rings!!! It's the absolute cop out, like calling someone a racist. Effectively dropping out of an argument


its actually 1.5 for 6


lockouts arent subjective
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:42 PM   #21
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Why would a lockout ring be worth less than a standard 82 gamer ring

Explain your reasoning kenneth
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:56 PM   #22
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Agreed, remember we're talking about a peak Shaq here not a young 20 year old Orlando shaq or a 35 year old Miami Shaq


Peak Shaq + a decent 2nd option = 3-4 rings


Prime Gasol + decent role players = 2 rings
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:09 PM   #23
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Agreed, remember we're talking about a peak Shaq here not a young 20 year old Orlando shaq or a 35 year old Miami Shaq


Peak Shaq + a decent 2nd option = 3-4 rings


Prime Gasol + decent role players = 2 rings


shaq was just a body and an athlete

he barely even evolved as a player asside from adding a post hook in his 2nd or 3rd year


prime shaq is basically 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005



and he was all nba level in 2006, 2007, 2008




if anyone tries telling me 29ppg 2nd year shaq wasnt good enough to accept blame for defeat. then youre a god damn f*ggot

he had a bunch of help EVERY YEAR HE PLAYED
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:11 PM   #24
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people seem to only judge shaq for the years he won

"the poor guy wasnt good enough before 2000!"

"the big fella was washed up by 2003!"


lol hogwash
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:11 PM   #25
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Shaq was in his prime in 2005?



I guess Kobe's in his prime right now, since he apparently doesn't rely on athleticism and is all skill based. Shouldn't he average 30 this season?
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:21 PM   #26
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Shaq was in his prime in 2005?



I guess Kobe's in his prime right now, since he apparently doesn't rely on athleticism and is all skill based. Shouldn't he average 30 this season?




shaq 1994 - 29.3ppg, 13.2rpg, 2.4apg, 3.0bpg, .599% fg's ( NOT prime )
shaq 1995 - 29.3ppg, 11.4rpg, 2.7apg, 2.4bpg, .583% fg's ( NOT prime )
shaq 2000 - 29.7ppg, 13.6rpg, 3.8apg, 3.0bpg, .574% fg's ( PRIME!!!!!! )





dude... shaq was just a body. he had a body from his early days... all that changed was he got kobe bryant


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Old 09-28-2015, 02:24 PM   #27
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lmao kenneth straight ducking my lockout question

duckin mofo
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:28 PM   #28
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So tell me, how important was Kobe's 22 points on 40% during the 3 peat ?


Kobe was a role-player, what's so hard in accepting it? There's no shame in that, just admit your favorite player is easily replaceable
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:29 PM   #29
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lmao kenneth straight ducking my lockout question

duckin mofo


why not just flip a coin to see who wins during lockout years. save the season that way



why is that any different than 82 games. 50 games? 66 games? 0 games? same difference right?
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:29 PM   #30
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Roll player gon roll player.
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