The true 100% legit top 10 NBA players of all time!

[Lamar Doom]

lists like this that span multiple generations and force you to compare the "dominance" of players like Shaq and Jordan are for morons, no surprise Bruceblitz made it, his only real agenda is to disclude Kobe. It's extra special because he didn't see half the list play basketball


"the true 100% legit" gets a snicker

[bruceblitz]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]MICHAEL JORDAN [/COLOR]
6 finals MVP's, 5 league MVP's, 10 scoring titles (6 while shooting over 50%), steals title, Defensive player of the year award, highest PPG in NBA history for the regular season (30.12) and playoffs (33.45). Averaged 31.5ppg and 51.5% shooting as a Chicago Bull against fierce defenses. Michael topped out at 37ppg in 1986-87, his best all around season looked like this: 32.5ppg - 8reb - 8ast - 2.9stl - .8blk on an amazing 54% shooting in 1988-89, Jordan had 5 seasons over 32 points per game. Jordan averaged 33.45ppg, 6.4reb, 5.7ast, on 49% shooting in the playoffs for his career. In the 1991 NBA Finals Jordan posted per game averages of 31.2 points on 56% shooting from the field, 11.4 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 2.8 steals and 1.4 blocks. Jordan won his first NBA Finals MVP award by a unanimous decision, and he cried while holding the NBA Finals trophy. In the 1992 NBA Finals Jordan was named Finals MVP for the second year in a row and finished the series averaging 35.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, and 6.5 apg, 1.67 steals, .33 blocks while shooting 53% from the floor. In the 1993 NBA Finals Jordan averaged a Finals-record 41.0 ppg during the six-game series, 8.5 rebounds, 6.3 assists, .67 blocks, 1.67steals, and became the first player in NBA history to win three straight Finals MVP awards. Jordan scored more than 30 points in every game of the series, including 40 or more points in 4 consecutive games, a record which has never been threatened. In the 1996 Finals Jordan averaged 27.3 points, 5.3 rebounds, 4.16 assists, 1.67 steals, .17 blocks per game in the 1996 NBA Finals vs Seattle. Jordan won the Finals MVP trophy. In the 1997 Finals Jordan averaged 32.3 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, .83 blocks, 1.17 steals per game in the 1997 NBA finals against the Utah Jazz. Jordan won the Finals MVP trophy. In the 1998 Finals Jordan averaged 33.5 points, 4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, .67 steals, .67 blocks per game in the 1998 NBA finals against the Utah Jazz. Jordan won the Finals MVP trophy. Jordan was 6 for 6 in NBA Finals appearances and 6 for 6 with Finals MVP awards.


KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
6 MVP awards, won championships with both Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson, member of 6 championship teams, 2 Finals MVP's, 2 time scoring champ, 19 time all-star, all time NBA leading scorer for total points, 34.8ppg career high in the 71-72 season (also averaged 4.6 assists and 16.6 rebounds that year), averaged 5 assists per game or more for 3 seasons, averaged 16 rebounds or more for 4 seasons, made 56% of his shots for his career, the sky hook was UNSTOPPABLE! Kareem averaged 32ppg, 17reb, 4ast, on 50% shooting in the playoffs in his prime.

WILT CHAMBERLAIN
7'1" 275lbs of pure beast, had a season averaging 24.3ppg, 23.8reb, 8.6ast in 1967-68, averaged over 20 rebounds per game for 11 seasons of his career, peaked out at 27.2 rebounds per game in 1960-61 while scoring 38.4ppg, averaged 50.4ppg on 50.6% shooting in the 1961-62 season, averaged 30.10 for his career on 54% shooting, made 72.7 of his shots in his final season in the NBA, his skill-set was amazing, featuring a fadeaway that was unstoppable along with his power moves in the post. The NBA did not record steals and blocks in that era. Wilt also won 7 scoring titles. Wilt averaged 35ppg, 25reb, 3ast, on 49% shooting in the playoffs in his prime.

MAGIC JOHNSON
6'9" 255lbs or pure all around greatness, won 3 finals MVP's, 5 time NBA champ, 3 time NBA MVP, Averaged 18.6ppg 9.5ast 9.6reb per game in 1981-82(closest to Oscar Robertson's season of averaging a triple double, topped out at 23.9ppg, Magic was not a pure scorer but he was a great team basketball player, Magic Johnson averaged 3.4stl per game in 1980-81, Magic's season high for assists per game was 13.1ast per in 1983-84, Magic made 52% of his shots for his career, finishing with 19.5ppg 11.2ast and 7.2reb per game for his career. Magic averaged 19.5ppg, 7.7reb, 12.3ast on 50.6% shooting in the playoffs for his career.

LARRY BIRD
Larry Bird was the second greatest clutch player in NBA history next to Michael Jordan, 6'9" 220lbs of pure heart, what Larry lacked in athleticism he made up for it with pure hustle and determination, one of the most unorthodoxed scorers of all time Larry showed us all what it meant to grind out wins, Larry was able to up-stage some of the most athletic players in NBA history like Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Dominique Wilkins and many many more. Many would argue that 1986-87 was Larry's best season, Larry averaged 28.1ppg 9.2reb and 7.6ast per game in 1986-87, Larry shot an amazing 37.6% from 3 point land for his career, made 49.6% of his shots, and Larry finished with 24.3ppg 10.0reb 6.3ast 1.7stl and .8blk per game for his entire career which is a staggering collection of team basketball production. Larry also won 2 finals MVP's, and 3 league MVP's. Larry averaged 23.8ppg, 10.3reb, 6.5ast on 47.2% shooting in the playoffs for his career.

BILL RUSSELL
Bill Russell was the greatest hustle player in NBA history, Bill Russell's scoring left a little to be desired and he wasn't a pure scorer, Bill Russell was a defensive legend and most likely the greatest defensive presence in NBA history. He was the "Wilt stopper". The NBA didn't provide steals and blocks stats back in Bill's career or his dominance on the defensive end of the court would show up in his production. Bill Russell averaged over 20 rebounds per game 10 times in his career, Bill Russell was a great passer out of double teams and he averaged over 5 assists per game twice in his career. Bill Russell was a 5 time league MVP, and a staggering 11 time NBA champion as the anchor of the legendary Celtics of the late 50's and 60's. Bill Russell finished with 15.1ppg 22.5reb 4.3ast on 44% shooting for his career. Russell averaged 20ppg, 26reb, 47%fg and 4ast per game in his prime during the playoffs.

HAKEEM OLAJUWON
Hakeem was arguably the most skilled center of all time in NBA history. His post moves, his ability to handle the rock and his athleticism are unmatched to this point by other NBA centers from any era. Hakeem racked up honor after honor in his NBA career. Hakeem was the NBA Finals MVP 2 times, Hakeem was the League MVP once, he would have had more MVP's but he was over-shadowed by the great Michael Air Jordan. Hakeem was the only player in NBA history to win an NBA League MVP, Defensive player of the year and NBA finals MVP in the same year. Hakeem peaked out just shy of 28 points per game, his peak rebound production was 14 rebounds per game and he had 6 years over 3 assists per game, and 9 years over 3 blocks per game peaking out at 4.6 blocks per game in the 1989-90 season. Hakeem had 5 years over 2 steals per game as well, and he ended his career as a 51.2% shooter, 3.1blk, 1.7stl, 11.1reb, 21.8ppg. Hakeem raised his level of play in the playoffs and he ended his playoff career as a 52.8% shooter, with 11.2reb, 3.2ast 25.9ppg in the playoffs.


OSCAR ROBERTSON
Oscar Robertson is quite honestly the greatest all around player the game has seen. In Oscar Robertson's second year in the NBA he averaged 30.8ppg, 12.reb, 11.4ast, as he averaged a triple double for an entire season, not even the great Larry Bird or Magic Johnson could do that.Oscar won a league MVP in 1964 on 47.8% shooting. Oscar had a silky smooth jumper/fadeaway and his post game is revered as the best in the history of the sport, this side of Michael Jordan. Oscar Robertson had 4 seasons at or over 11 assists per game. Oscar also had 3 seasons over 10 rebounds per game. Oscar closed out his career averaging 25.7ppg, 9.5ast, 7.5reb, and he was a 48.5% shooter for his career. Oscar Robertson didn't play on the greatest teams so his playoff numbers are a little skewed, A lot of his playoff numbers were amassed at the end of his career. In his prime Oscar averaged nearly 30 points per game on 47% shooting with nearly 9 rebounds and 10 assists per game in the playoffs during his prime.

SHAQ O'NEAL
The most dominant center in NBA Finals history was Shaq O'Neal as a Laker. Shaq O'Neal has been the most physically imposing center in the history of the game this side of Wilt Chamberlain. By his second year in the league Shaq was averaging over 29 points per game and he peaked out at 29.7ppg. Shaq has 5 years over 3 assists per game and has 13 years over 10 rebounds per game, Shaq also has been a great shot blocker having 12 years over 2 blocks per game. Shaq so far in his career has averaged 24.9ppg, 11.3reb, 2.6ast, 2.4blk on an amazing 58.1% shooting. He's not a pure shooter but his ability to dominate in the post helped create high % shot attempts for Shaq. Shaq always rose his level of play in the playoffs when he was a Laker, Shaq averaged over 15 rebounds twice in the playoffs, and over 30 points per game 3 times in the playoffs, the decline at the end of Shaq's career have skewed his playoff production a bit giving him 25.2ppg, 12.1reb, and 2.8ast on 50.1% shooting in the playoffs for his career. Shaq's production in the NBA Finals as a Laker looked like this: vs Indiana Pacers 38ppg 16rpg 2apg 61%FG, vs Philadelphia Shaq 33ppg 15rpg 4apg 57%FG, vs New Jersey Nets Shaq 36ppg 12rpg 3apg 59%FG, vs Detroit 26ppg 10rpg 1apg 63%FG. Shaq also has 3 finals MVP and a league MVP in his trophy case.

TIM DUNCAN
Tim Duncan is known for his fundamental approach to the game of basketball. In a similar fashion to Kevin McHale from the 80's, Duncan has been able to dominate teams with his fundamental approach to the game of basketball. He's not physically imposing and he's not a great athlete but his ability to be a great thinker and executor of his fundamentals is what sets him apart from most NBA players in the history of the game. Tim Duncan's career numbers are staggering averaging 21.5ppg, 11.8reb, 3.2ast, 2.4blk on 50.8% shooting. Duncan peaked out at 25.5ppg, he has 5 seasons over 12reb per, and 10 seasons over 2blk per. Tim Duncan raises hes level of play in the playoffs averaging 23.4ppg, 12.7, 3.5ast on 50.1% shooting for his career in the playoffs so far. Duncan has 3 Finals MVP's and 2 league MVP's in his trophy case.

Yeah, disagree with history.

[bruceblitz]

lists like this that span multiple generations and force you to compare the "dominance" of players like Shaq and Jordan are for morons, no surprise Bruceblitz made it, his only real agenda is to disclude Kobe. It's extra special because he didn't see half the list play basketball


"the true 100% legit" gets a snicker

Unlike you, I've spent years upon years upon years, and countless hours studying and learning the history of one of my favorite sports.

It's funny, you say I have an agenda:

Here's the real agenda, leap frog Kobe over everyone. That's the agenda I see on this retarded message board every f'ing day. People like fatal9 live on here, roundballrock, they puke all over the history of the NBA while true fans like myself hold the legacies of the greats to their proper respective levels of greatness.

You can snicker, you can hate me, I don't give a damn, call it arrogant, I know more about the history of the game than ANY Kobe Bryant apostle.

You all suck. (Kobe apostles).
Don't respond, I don't care what you say from this point on. I'm gonna use my youtube platform to do something earth shattering in the off-season. You will see.... (I know you all watch)...

[Lamar Doom]

"Unlike you, I've spent years upon years upon years, and countless hours studying and learning the history of one of my favorite sports."


what a joke. you are a dillusional tool. you talk about players you've never seen play. you don't watch enough basketball, you focus on rhetoric, you don't offer any real insight, you're just a copy+paster. you're a 30 something wannabe purist and a f*ck head.

[Sir Charles]

EFF, PER and Statsticl +/- = REAL IMPACT

Not Popularity Contests
Not Bull MVP/All NBA Team Poularity Opinion Crap
Not Off the Court Activities Role Model Opinion or Like That Personality Better Crap
Not Championships, Championships = Teams etc Crap!

Indicate the Following:

http://www.basketballreference.com/l...?stat=eff&lg=n

Career EFF Leaders

Player EFF Seasons

[COLOR="Orange"]1 Wilt Chamberlain 41.50 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="darkgreen"]2 Bill Russell 31.71 13 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]3 Oscar Robertson 31.61 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Lime"]4 Bob Pettit 31.11 11 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="orange"]5 Kareem Abdul-jabbar 30.93 20 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]6 Larry Bird 29.77 13 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]7 Elgin Baylor 29.74 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]8 Michael Jordan 29.19 15[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]9 Magic Johnson 29.10 13 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]10 Charles Barkley 28.16 16 [/COLOR]

11 Jerry Lucas 28.13 11
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]12 LeBron James 27.20 6 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]13 Hakeem Olajuwon 27.17 18 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]14 Shaquille O'neal 27.11 17 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="orange"]15 Jerry West 27.10 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]16 David Robinson 26.98 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]17 Karl Malone 26.94 19 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]18 Kevin Garnett 26.80 14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]19 Tim Duncan 26.39 12 [/COLOR]
20 Walt Bellamy 26.29 14

21 Dave Cowens 26.23 11
22 Maurice Stokes 25.75 3
23 Chris Paul 25.31 4
24 Bob Lanier 25.29 14
25 Bob McAdoo 24.47 14
[COLOR="deepskyblue"]26 Dirk Nowitzki 24.34 11 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]27 Dwyane Wade 24.22 6 [/COLOR]
28 Moses Malone 24.14 19
29 Willis Reed 24.06 10
30 Elvin Hayes 24.04 16

31 Rick Barry 23.98 10
32 Elton Brand 23.96 10
33 Nate Thurmond 23.73 14
34 Chris Webber 23.72 15
35 Wes Unseld 23.70 13
36 Billy Cunningham 23.51 9
37 Patrick Ewing 23.41 17
38 Julius Erving 23.35 11
39 Neil Johnston 23.23 8
40 Dwight Howard 23.18 5

41 Brad Daugherty 23.10 8
42 Shawn Marion 22.99 10
43 Artis Gilmore 22.99 12
44 Amare Stoudemire 22.85 7
45 Walt Frazier 22.74 13
46 Gus Johnson 22.63 9
47 Adrian Dantley 22.60 15
48 Kobe Bryant 22.58 13
49 Clyde Drexler 22.42 15
50 Pau Gasol 22.33 8
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_career.html

Career Leaders and Records for Player Efficiency Rating (Season)

Rank Player PER

[COLOR="Red"]1. Michael Jordan* 27.91[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]2. Shaquille O'Neal 26.87 [/COLOR]
3. LeBron James 26.20
[COLOR="darkslategray"]4. David Robinson* 26.18 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="orange"]5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="lime"]6. Bob Pettit* 25.37 [/COLOR]
7. Tim Duncan 25.05
8. Neil Johnston* 24.66
[COLOR="Blue"]9. Charles Barkley* 24.63 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]10. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58 [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Orange"]11. Magic Johnson* 24.11 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]12. Karl Malone 23.90 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]13. Dirk Nowitzki 23.84 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]14. Kevin Garnett 23.81 [/COLOR]
15. Kobe Bryant 23.63
[COLOR="DarkRed"]16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]17. Julius Erving* 23.57 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]18. Larry Bird* 23.50 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]19. Oscar Robertson* 23.17 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]20. Tracy McGrady 23.07 [/COLOR]

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21. Yao Ming 23.03
22. Jerry West* 22.90
23. Elgin Baylor* 22.70
24. Elton Brand 22.38
25. Moses Malone* 22.00
26. Dolph Schayes* 21.93
27. John Stockton* 21.83
28. Pau Gasol 21.77
29. Bob Lanier* 21.69
30. Clyde Lovellette* 21.67

31. Dominique Wilkins* 21.56
32. Adrian Dantley* 21.51
33. Harry Gallatin* 21.44
34. Vince Carter 21.41
35. Artis Gilmore 21.40
36. George Gervin* 21.38
37. Dan Issel* 21.37
38. Alonzo Mourning 21.24
39. Allen Iverson 21.10
40. Clyde Drexler* 21.07

41. Rick Barry* 21.04
42. Patrick Ewing* 21.01
43. Paul Pierce 21.00
44. Chris Webber 20.94
45. John Drew 20.74
46. Gilbert Arenas 20.74
47. Bob McAdoo* 20.73
48. Kevin Johnson 20.70
49. Chris Bosh 20.69
50. George Yardley* 20.52


http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._career_p.html

Career Playoffs Leaders and Records for Player Efficiency Rating (Play-Offs)

Rank Player PER

[COLOR="Red"]1. Michael Jordan* 28.59 [/COLOR]
2. George Mikan* 28.51
[COLOR="Orange"]3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.47[/COLOR]
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]4. LeBron James 26.14 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]5. Tim Duncan 26.07[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]6. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]7. Tracy McGrady 24.66 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]8. Dirk Nowitzki 24.43 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]9. Charles Barkley* 24.18 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Sienna"]10. Dwyane Wade 23.55 [/COLOR]

11. Dolph Schayes* 23.24
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]12. Kevin Garnett 23.19 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]13. Jerry West* 23.07 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]14. David Robinson* 23.03 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]15. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 23.01 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]16. Magic Johnson* 22.95 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="orange"]17. Wilt Chamberlain* 22.76 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="lime"]18. Bob Pettit* 22.58 [/COLOR]
19. Baron Davis 22.19
[COLOR="Blue"]20. Julius Erving* 22.05 [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Orange"]21. Elgin Baylor* 21.88 [/COLOR]
22. Rick Barry* 21.79
23. Moses Malone* 21.56
[COLOR="orange"]24. Kobe Bryant 21.50[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]25. Larry Bird* 21.40 [/COLOR]
26. Vince Carter 21.40
27. Allen Iverson 21.23
28. George Gervin* 21.17
29. Karl Malone 21.12
30. Oscar Robertson* 20.98

31. Bob Lanier* 20.81
32. Pau Gasol 20.70
33. George Yardley* 20.69
34. Cliff Hagan* 20.62
35. Shawn Kemp 20.55
36. Gus Williams 20.40
37. Artis Gilmore 20.36
38. Manu Ginobili 20.35
39. Paul Arizin* 20.31
40. Dan Issel* 20.06

41. Alex English* 19.92
42. Walter Davis 19.91
43. John Stockton* 19.84
44. Walt Frazier* 19.84
45. Isiah Thomas* 19.80
46. Anfernee Hardaway 19.76
47. Clyde Lovellette* 19.73
48. George McGinnis 19.73
49. Clyde Drexler* 19.71
50. Chauncey Billups 19.64

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=1415

Statistical +/-

Player Pos G Min SPM
---------------+--+----------+--------+------
[COLOR="Red"]michaeljordan G 1072 41013 12.85[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]wiltchamberlain C 1045 47859 11.59[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]davidrobinson C 987 34272 10.79[/COLOR]
lebronjames F 444 18083 10.00
[COLOR="Blue"]charlesbarkley F 1073 39330 9.03[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]k.abdul-jabbar C 1560 57446 9.01[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]magicjohnson G 906 33245 8.82[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]larrybird F 897 34443 8.81[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]juliuserving F 1243 45227 8.57[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Orange"]shaquilleo'neal C 1089 39103 8.21[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Lime"]bobpettit F 792 30690 7.87[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Black"]clydedrexler G 1086 37537 7.79[/COLOR]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]oscarrobertson G 1040 43886 7.75[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]hakeemolajuwon C 1238 44222 7.70[/COLOR]
[COLOR="orange"]elginbaylor F 846 33863 7.59[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]karlmalone F 1476 54852 7.50[/COLOR]
andreikirilenko F 533 16671 7.37
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]timduncan F 877 32481 7.30[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]tracymcgrady F 784 27463 7.12[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]kevingarnett F 1051 39570 6.91[/COLOR]

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boblanier C 959 32103 6.24
[COLOR="Orange"]kobebryant G 921 33584 6.22
jerrywest G 932 36571 6.17[/COLOR]
bobbyjones F 941 25728 6.16
conniehawkins F 616 22232 6.08
dirknowitzki F 812 29663 5.97
neiljohnston C 516 18298 5.94
vincecarter G 752 28333 5.88
billrussell C 963 40726 5.85
larrynance F 920 30697 5.74
dolphschayes F 866 29800 5.65
johnstockton G 1504 47764 5.63
rickbarry F 1020 38153 5.56
waltfrazier G 825 30965 5.45
paulpierce F 788 29570 5.30
artisgilmore C 1329 47150 5.16
docrivers G 864 23567 5.16
alvinrobertson G 779 24669 5.13
d.wilkins F 1074 38113 5.10
billycunningham F 770 26844 5.09
scottiepippen F 1178 41069 4.97
booutlaw F 914 20750 4.91
eltonbrand F 643 24421 4.87
gilbertarenas G 431 16115 4.80
waltbellamy C 1043 38940 4.72
chriswebber F 831 30847 4.71
marquesjohnson F 691 23694 4.65
sidneymoncrief G 767 23150 4.60
rogerbrown F 605 21454 4.57
wesunseld C 984 35832 4.56

As some wise man on this forum would say

*Sorry if i make spelling mistakes but....

Thou Shall Not Have The Indicency To Disagree With Clear Evidence

Of Statistical Broken Down: Impact, All Around Game, Efficiency Per Minute, Efficiency Per Game/Season/Career....

Only Thy Blind Man Loveth of Hype-Media-Votings-Polls Opinions.

Break Down Thy Own Conclusions...

After Finding Coindicently.... that Top 10-20-30-40-50 etc Greatest Players of All Time Are Eveidenced In Cold Paper.

[giantgonzolez]

Moses Malone and Tim Duncan are both above Shaq. How many top 50 players has Tim Duncan played with? Also, Moses Malone has averaged over 30ppg and 15rpg over an entire season somethat that's INCOMPREHENSIBLE for Shaq.

[D-Rose]

Moses Malone and Tim Duncan are both above Shaq. How many top 50 players has Tim Duncan played with? Also, Moses Malone has averaged over 30ppg and 15rpg over an entire season somethat that's INCOMPREHENSIBLE for Shaq.

stats aren't what people only look at?

[1987_Lakers]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Kobe Bryant

[CB4GOATPF]

1-Jordan
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Hakeem
6-Robinson
7-Barkley
8-Duncan
9-Bird (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)
10-Magic (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)

-----------
Bob Pettit
Karl Malone
Kevin Garnett
Dr J
Big 0
Jerry West

In The Top 16

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[HighFlyer23]

1-Jordan
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Hakeem
6-Robinson
7-Barkley
8-Duncan
9-Bird (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)
10-Magic (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)

-----------
Bob Pettit
Karl Malone
Kevin Garnett
Dr J
Big 0
Jerry West

In The Top 16

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one of a kind list

[CB4GOATPF]

one of a kind list

The List of Reality

Not Likes of Style
Not Votings
Not Opinions
Not Polls

Efficiency Total, Per Minute Efficiency and Statistical Plus/Minus

The Only Thing That is Missing is Comparing The Level of Players and Teams Each Player Had in Their Times (Both Offensively and Defensively ofcourse, D) In Their Times and The Teams They Faced (The Level of Offensive and Defensive Teams Players They Faced)

That Would Be Even More Exact

[KenneBell]

1-Jordan
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Hakeem
6-Robinson
7-Barkley
8-Duncan
9-Bird (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)
10-Magic (Played with Too Many All Stars so PER is Below Reality)

-----------
Bob Pettit
Karl Malone
Kevin Garnett
Dr J
Big 0
Jerry West

In The Top 16

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[ZaaaaaH]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Kobe Bryant

Good list but I switch Shaq with Bird

[che guevara]

Barkley ahead of Bird and Magic... never thought I would see that.

One question - why do so many people have Hakeem over Shaq? I really don't understand that at all. He won more titles with a better peak and better longevity.

My list (very subjective/changes easily)

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Larry Bird
4. Magic Johnson
5. Shaq
6. Wilt Chaimberlain
7. Bill Russell
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Tim Duncan
10. Moses Malone

Jerry West and Kobe also have good cases to be in the top 10, but I put Moses at 10th because he has 3 MVPs and a title as a team's best player. Oscar didn't have enough team success in my opinion, and neither did Wilt, but it's really hard to judge players that I've seen little of. I can only go by stats/accomplishments and the little footage that is available.

[HighFlyer23]

Might as well ...

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Bird
5. Shaq/Hakeem
7. Magic
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10. Kobe