Better career: LeBron without Wade or Jordan without Pippen? (comparison)

[Screamin A Smit]

Average Team wins

Jordan - 36.4 wins LeBron 51.2 wins



Playoff series wins

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 15


Finals Appearances

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 3


Championships

Jordan - 0 LeBron - 1



MVPs


Jordan - 0 LeBron - 2



FMVPs


Jordan - 0 LeBron- 1





50 win teams beaten



Jordan - 0 LeBron - 5





Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs










Who you got?

[KiiiiNG]

Wow... such disparity

LBJ > Jordan

Good work OP

[SouBeachTalents]

How many seasons did they play without their teammate?

[Screamin A Smit]

How many seasons did they play without their teammate?

They both played their beginning years and later years without their respective teammate, so its a fair comparison





Both LeBron and Jordan played their primes with Wade/Pippen and played the rest of their careers without them. So its a fair outlook.

[ArbitraryWater]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'

[Screamin A Smit]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

[egokiller]

Why is OP so insecure about Lebron's not being as good as Jordan?

Is it because Lebron is an era specific player, meaning that he would never be successful in any other era where colluding was not acceptable. If he tried to join forces with greats like Bird, MJ, or Magic they would just tell him to go fvck himself and make his own destiny by beating them and their squad as the leader of his own team.

[Screamin A Smit]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'

No, LeBrons 2 MVPs 3 Finals 1 FMVP is still > Kobes 1 MVP 3 Finals 2 FMVP

[SouBeachTalents]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

Valid point, but how would you compare Wade & Pippen's careers without LeBron & Jordan?

[KiiiiNG]

this wont work because its easy for Kobetards to retort by saying 'Kobe without shaq takes the cake then'

This is a conversation reserved for players in the top 10

[Screamin A Smit]

This is a conversation reserved for players in the top 10

Exactly, Horry has 4 rings without Duncan, but noone really cares about that.

[egokiller]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

55 wins without MJ was debunked over 20 years ago. The 55 win bulls had guys from the 3-peat team like B.J. Armstrong, Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant, but also was a completely different team with Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr Bill Wennington, and Luc Longley.

“It ended up being a far different roster than what we had won with" said Pippen. “Defense continued to be one of our strong points.”

[GrapeApe]

And lets not forget




Pippen the season after Jordan left - 55 wins 2nd round in the playoffs




Wade the season after LeBron left- 37 wins misses the playoffs

Wade's career without Lebron >>> Pippen's career without Jordan.

[Screamin A Smit]

Wade's career without Lebron >>> Pippen's career without Jordan.

Did Pippen have a top 5 GOAT without Jordan, Like Wade had in Shaq?

[Real14]

Jordan never played with someone as good as wade. Pippen was nowhere Wade.