How is Durant not the best SF in the game?

[Bladers]

Was thinking the same thing, doesn't exactly help his arguement to start off the topic.

That said durant is up there, top 3-5 this season.

Because when you see the initial stats you think oh lebron is better. But when you actually look closely and in-depth. You find that to be far from the truth.

No one can refute the eleven points, because they are true and tell the complete story. While stats by themselves are deceptive if not taken into context.

[Jotaro Durant]

he is. better scorer, shooter, rebounder, blocker. lebron better assist, steals,

some of u to used to see lebron being the best that when he gets taking over u cant accept it. durant>lebron right now deal with it

[arifgokcen]

Was thinking the same thing, doesn't exactly help his arguement to start off the topic.

That said durant is up there, top 3-5 this season.

This type of thread doesnt even deserve this kind of an answer.Because the poster himself knows he is just trolling.

[stallionaire]

No, Lebron is definitely a better player right now.

The truth straight from an OKC fan, I love it.

[Chrono90]

Im not a Lebron fan and I gotta say it's him being the best player right now.

[Chaddai]

Let's take it to Advance Metrics.

Lebron James 32.8% Usage Rating
Kevin Durant 31.4% Usage Rating

Win Shares:
1. LeBron James 7.59
2. Kevin Love 6.28
3. Tyson Chandler 5.37
4. Ryan Anderson 5.26
5. Kevin Durant 5.19
6. LaMarcus Aldridge 4.84
7. Dwight Howard 4.79
8. James Harden 4.77
9. Chris Paul 4.52
10. Marc Gasol 4.46

Win Shares Per 48 Minutes:
1. LeBron James .331
2. Ryan Anderson .269
3. Kevin Love .261
4. Chris Paul .252
5. Tyson Chandler .247
6. James Harden .243
7. Derrick Rose .243
8. Kevin Durant .221
9. LaMarcus Aldridge .215
10. Lou Williams .215

Offensive Win Shares:
1. LeBron James 5.64
2. Kevin Love 4.52
3. Ryan Anderson 4.20
4. James Harden 3.98
5. Chris Paul 3.70
6. Kevin Durant 3.57
7. Tyson Chandler 3.56
8. LaMarcus Aldridge 3.27
9. Derrick Rose 3.11
10. Steve Nash 2.98

Defensive Win Shares:
1. Dwight Howard 2.93
2. Josh Smith 2.35
3. Andre Iguodala 2.29
4. Marc Gasol 2.07
5. Carlos Boozer 2.05
6. LeBron James 1.95
7. Joakim Noah 1.89
8. Andrew Bynum 1.83
9. Tyson Chandler 1.81
10. Elton Brand 1.80

Player Efficiency Rating:
1. LeBron James 32.61
2. Kevin Durant 26.29
3. Kevin Love 25.97
4. Chris Paul 25.37
5. Derrick Rose 24.83
6. Kobe Bryant 24.63
7. Dwight Howard 23.93
8. LaMarcus Aldridge 23.92
9. Ryan Anderson 23.45
10. Al Jefferson 23.31

+/- for the top 25 scorers:
1. LeBron James +281
2. Chris Bosh +216
3. LaMarcus Aldridge +195
4. Derrick Rose +183
5. Chris Paul +166
6. Blake Griffin +165
7. Dwyane Wade +162
8. Tony Parker +157
9. Russell Westbook +147
10. Dwight Howard +139
11. Kevin Durant +132

"Lebron handles the ball alot and is ball dominant while Durant plays off the ball alot and isn't ball dominant. If he handled the ball as much as Lebron does he would likewise have the same amount of assists."

Look at Usage Rating

"Durants stats are actually better than Lebron in his own team with a shot jacking westbrook."

The same can be said for Lebron. Lebron has Wade in his team and at times Wade dominates the ball and takes more shots than him. Without Wade in the lineup, did you see how dominating Lebron was in the beginning of the season?

[arifgokcen]

Because when you see the initial stats you think oh lebron is better. But when you actually look closely and in-depth. You find that to be far from the truth.

No one can refute the eleven points, because they are true and tell the complete story. While stats by themselves are deceptive if not taken into context.

If you are gonna look in depth,then use every advanced statistical measurements there is,
Is this what you are saying.

Efficieny
Lebron 30,94
KD 27,91
PER
27,49 KD
32,68 Lebron(best season of all time)
2 pointers
Lebron %57
KD %56
3 pointers
Lebron %41
KD %37
Estimated Wins contributed by player
Lebron 12.9
KD 10.2

Lebron is shooting 1.4shots less and averaging same numbers while playing 1.6minutes less.

Lebron is grabbing %20.9 available rebound while KD %20.3
However Lebron is by far the better offensive rebounder he doesnt after defensive rebounds because he leaks out.Again this is while playing about 36mpg

True Shooting percentage
%63 Lebron
%61 Durant

Lebron is right now by far the best postup player in the league.If he cuts down his turnovers he will probably become the most efficient post player of alltime.

Lebron always defends the best player on the court in 4th quarters while dishing out and scoring.

While he was by himself he posted the best crunch time scoring of alltime even his airness didnt come close to posting 66ppg while averaging 3.2bpg 3.2 spg

Before joining miami he was the best player during 4th quarters for 4 straight years only chris paul's hornets performed better than him.

Lebron and KD turnover numbers are identical,which is suprising because he never holds the ball.His turnover rate is by far the highest among top 10 players in scoring and he is only averaring 3.3apg.

Defense Opponents
Lebron is holding opponents the league 2nd best 9.0
KD is at 10.9 opponent production

While lebron is on the court,Miami is outscoring is opponents by +9.8 points per game.He is leading the league in net production by a huge margin at 23.4

KD is at 28th place.OKC is outscoring his opponents by only 4.8points per game.His net production on the court is 15.4.

Again dont forget Lebron is at 36.6mpg KD is at 37.9mpg

Lebron's this season production is unheard of in todays pace.This is by far the best season in modern era including His Airness

Lebron is front runner MVP while also one of the strongest candidates for DPOY award.

His impact is so serious that miami is actually getting outscored when he is on bench.This is how vital he is to this team.

BTW dont forget lebron is by far the best non-pg distributor in the game.His unique ability enables him to play 5 positons and dominate 4 of them effectively.

His versatility is so severe that he can go against any player in the league and overwhelm him including centers.

He has the body of Karl Malone and the speed of pg.He is faster than almost all the guards today.He is heavier than half the centers in the league at 270lbs while can jump higher and can guard anybody on the floor.

So there you go you cant go wrong with this analysis.

[arifgokcen]

If you are gonna look in depth,then use every advanced statistical measurements there is,
Is this what you are saying.

Efficieny
Lebron 30,94
KD 27,91
PER
27,49 KD
32,68 Lebron(best season of all time)
2 pointers
Lebron %57
KD %56
3 pointers
Lebron %41
KD %37
Estimated Wins contributed by player
Lebron 12.9
KD 10.2

Lebron is shooting 1.4shots less and averaging same numbers while playing 1.6minutes less.

Lebron is grabbing %20.9 available rebound while KD %20.3
However Lebron is by far the better offensive rebounder he doesnt go after defensive rebounds because he leaks out for transition opportunities.Again this is while playing about 36mpg

True Shooting percentage
%63 Lebron
%61 Durant

Lebron is right now by far the best postup player in the league.If he cuts down his turnovers he will probably become the most efficient post player of alltime.

Lebron always defends the best player on the court in 4th quarters while dishing out and scoring.

While he was by himself he posted the best crunch time scoring of alltime even his airness didnt come close to posting 66ppg while averaging 3.2bpg 3.2 spg

Before joining miami he was the best player during 4th quarters for 4 straight years only chris paul's hornets performed better than him.

Lebron and KD turnover numbers are identical,which is suprising because KD never holds the ball.His turnover rate is by far the highest among top 10 players in scoring and he is only averaring 3.3apg.

Defense Opponents
Lebron is holding opponents the league 2nd best 9.0
KD is at 10.9 opponent production

While lebron is on the court,Miami is outscoring is opponents by +9.8 points per game.He is leading the league in net production by a huge margin at 23.4

KD is at 28th place.OKC is outscoring his opponents by only 4.8points per game.His net production on the court is 15.4.

Again dont forget Lebron is at 36.6mpg KD is at 37.9mpg

Lebron's this season production is unheard of in todays pace.This is by far the best season in modern era including His Airness

Lebron is front runner MVP while also one of the strongest candidates for DPOY award.

His impact is so serious that miami is actually getting outscored when he is on bench.This is how vital he is to this team.

BTW dont forget lebron is by far the best non-pg distributor in the game.His unique ability enables him to play 5 positons and dominate 4 of them effectively.

His versatility is so severe that he can go against any player in the league and overwhelm him including centers.

He has the body of Karl Malone and the speed of pg.He is faster than almost all the guards today.He is heavier than half the centers in the league at 270lbs while can jump higher and can guard anybody on the floor.

So there you go you cant go wrong with this analysis.

[Bob Cousy]

CARLOS BOOZER IS 5TH IN DEFENSIVE WIN SHARES ??? wat ?

[arifgokcen]

If you are gonna look in depth,then use every advanced statistical measurements there is,
Is this what you are saying.

Efficieny
Lebron 30,94
KD 27,91

PER
27,49 KD
32,68 Lebron(best season of all time)

2 pointers
Lebron %57
KD %56

3 pointers
Lebron %41
KD %37

Estimated Wins contributed by player
Lebron 12.9
KD 10.2


Lebron is shooting 1.4shots less and averaging same numbers while playing 1.6minutes less.

Lebron is grabbing %20.9 available rebound while KD %20.3
However Lebron is by far the better offensive rebounder he doesnt go after defensive rebounds because he leaks out for transition opportunities.Again this is while playing about 36mpg

True Shooting percentage
%63 Lebron
%61 Durant

Lebron is right now by far the best postup player in the league.If he cuts down his turnovers he will probably become the most efficient post player of alltime.

Lebron always defends the best player on the court in 4th quarters while dishing out and scoring.

While he was by himself he posted the best crunch time scoring of alltime even his airness didnt come close to posting 66ppg while averaging 3.2bpg 3.2 spg

Before joining miami he was the best player during 4th quarters for 4 straight years only chris paul's hornets performed better than him.

Lebron and KD turnover numbers are identical,which is suprising because KD never holds the ball.His turnover rate is by far the highest among top 10 players in scoring and he is only averaring 3.3apg.

Defense Opponents
Lebron is holding opponents the league 2nd best 9.0
KD is at 10.9 opponent production

While lebron is on the court,Miami is outscoring is opponents by +9.8 points per game.He is leading the league in net production by a huge margin at 23.4

KD is at 28th place.OKC is outscoring his opponents by only 4.8points per game.His net production on the court is 15.4.

Again dont forget Lebron is at 36.6mpg KD is at 37.9mpg

Lebron's this season production is unheard of in todays pace.This is by far the best season in modern era including His Airness

Lebron is front runner MVP while also one of the strongest candidates for DPOY award.

His impact is so serious that miami is actually getting outscored when he is on bench.This is how vital he is to this team.

BTW dont forget lebron is by far the best non-pg distributor in the game.His unique ability enables him to play 5 positons and dominate 4 of them effectively.

His versatility is so severe that he can go against any player in the league and overwhelm him including centers.

He has the body of Karl Malone and the speed of pg.He is faster than almost all the guards today.He is heavier than half the centers in the league at 270lbs while can jump higher and can guard anybody on the floor.

So there you go you cant go wrong with this analysis.

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[HurricaneKid]

Now please this is about this year, this season and Durant is by far better than Lebron. its close but Durant edges him out.

"track meat" as wade put it and cherry picking to the point its illegal.

You are a horrible poster in general but this thread has reached a new level of stupid. Congratulations on your achievement.

[arifgokcen]

You are a horrible poster in general but this thread has reached a new level of stupid. Congratulations on your achievement.

He doesnt even know proper english to express himself.
Look at the this sentence

this season and Durant is by far better than Lebron. its close but Durant edges him out.

[PickernRoller]

A player without the heart to win it all is a player with improvements to make.

You can see KD with the Killer Instinct when he goes clutch, Lebron, well, you always doubt if he's going to show up or not. That says it all.

Stats don't win rings, great 4th quarter performances do. What does being the best player in the world mean if Wade is more dependable than Lebron to win rings....

Till the Finals again...

[Bob Cousy]

Didn't OP have like 10 red bars in his rep ?

[HurricaneKid]

If you are gonna look in depth,then use every advanced statistical measurements there is,
Is this what you are saying.

Efficieny
Lebron 30,94
KD 27,91
PER
27,49 KD
32,68 Lebron(best season of all time)
2 pointers
Lebron %57
KD %56
3 pointers
Lebron %41
KD %37
Estimated Wins contributed by player
Lebron 12.9
KD 10.2

Lebron is shooting 1.4shots less and averaging same numbers while playing 1.6minutes less.

Lebron is grabbing %20.9 available rebound while KD %20.3
However Lebron is by far the better offensive rebounder he doesnt go after defensive rebounds because he leaks out for transition opportunities.Again this is while playing about 36mpg

True Shooting percentage
%63 Lebron
%61 Durant

Lebron is right now by far the best postup player in the league.If he cuts down his turnovers he will probably become the most efficient post player of alltime.

Lebron always defends the best player on the court in 4th quarters while dishing out and scoring.

While he was by himself he posted the best crunch time scoring of alltime even his airness didnt come close to posting 66ppg while averaging 3.2bpg 3.2 spg

Before joining miami he was the best player during 4th quarters for 4 straight years only chris paul's hornets performed better than him.

Lebron and KD turnover numbers are identical,which is suprising because KD never holds the ball.His turnover rate is by far the highest among top 10 players in scoring and he is only averaring 3.3apg.

Defense Opponents
Lebron is holding opponents the league 2nd best 9.0
KD is at 10.9 opponent production

While lebron is on the court,Miami is outscoring is opponents by +9.8 points per game.He is leading the league in net production by a huge margin at 23.4

KD is at 28th place.OKC is outscoring his opponents by only 4.8points per game.His net production on the court is 15.4.

Again dont forget Lebron is at 36.6mpg KD is at 37.9mpg

Lebron's this season production is unheard of in todays pace.This is by far the best season in modern era including His Airness

Lebron is front runner MVP while also one of the strongest candidates for DPOY award.

His impact is so serious that miami is actually getting outscored when he is on bench.This is how vital he is to this team.

BTW dont forget lebron is by far the best non-pg distributor in the game.His unique ability enables him to play 5 positons and dominate 4 of them effectively.

His versatility is so severe that he can go against any player in the league and overwhelm him including centers.

He has the body of Karl Malone and the speed of pg.He is faster than almost all the guards today.He is heavier than half the centers in the league at 270lbs while can jump higher and can guard anybody on the floor.

So there you go you cant go wrong with this analysis.

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