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    Default Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    I don't get it.

    The league average for FG% from 2000-2010 was around the 44-46% range and that is exactly the range Kobe shot from 2000-2010, so how exactly was he inefficient? How is he also inefficient when he always shot in the 55% to 57% range in TS% when the league average of TS% from 2000-2010 was always around the 52-54% range?

    If I had to take a guess though it is because Michael Jordan's FG% was always in the 50% so the fact that his FG% was below Jordan's FG% all of a suddenly makes him inefficient opposed to not being as efficient as Michael Jordan. I think some people need to fix their word usage here because that doesn't make Kobe inefficient, just not as efficient or as good as MJ.

    It's pretty funny how bad these MJ-Kobe comparisons have damaged Kobe's legacy.


    Here are the actual League average for FG%

    2000-2001 - 44.3%
    2001-2002 - 44.5%
    2002-2003 - 44.2%
    2003-2004 - 43.9%
    2004-2005 - 44.7%
    2005-2006 - 45.4%
    2006-2007 - 45.8%
    2007-2008 - 45.7%
    2008-2009 - 45.9%
    2009-2010 - 46.1%

    Kobe's FG% from '01-'10 (his prime) +/- means how much better or worse than it is compared to league average.

    2000-2001 - 46.4% - +2.1
    2001-2002 - 46.9% - +2.4
    2002-2003 - 45.1% - +0.9
    2003-2004 - 43.8% - -0.1
    2004-2005 - 43.3% - -1.4
    2005-2006 - 45.0% - -0.4
    2006-2007 - 46.3% - +0.5
    2007-2008 - 45.9% - +0.2
    2008-2009 - 46.7% - +0.8
    2009-2010 - 45.6% - -0.5

    Funny for three of the seasons of the four seasons where his FG% were seasons where he suffered injuries. (all except '05-'06).


    Here are Kobe's TS% and eFG% compared to the league average

    Kobe's TS% from '01-'10 (his prime)

    2000-2001 - 55.2% - +3.4
    2001-2002 - 54.4% - +2.4
    2002-2003 - 55.0% - +3.1
    2003-2004 - 55.1% - +3.5
    2004-2005 - 56.3% - +3.3
    2005-2006 - 55.9% - +2.4
    2006-2007 - 58.0% - +3.9
    2007-2008 - 57.6% - +3.6
    2008-2009 - 56.1% - +1.5
    2009-2010 - 54.5% - +0.2

    Kobe's eFG% from '01-'10 (his prime)

    2000-2001 - 48.4% - +1.1
    2001-2002 - 47.9% - +0.2
    2002-2003 - 48.3% - +1.0
    2003-2004 - 46.8% - -0.3
    2004-2005 - 48.2% - the exact league average
    2005-2006 - 49.1% - +0.2
    2006-2007 - 50.2% - +0.6
    2007-2008 - 50.3% - +0.5
    2008-2009 - 48.8% - -1.1
    2009-2010 - 48.7% - -1.4
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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Because if you say he's average from the field (which I do agree), some people will think your calling him an "average player" and won't understand why people call him great... when he's average.

    That's the reasoning to some of these fans, unfortunately.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    so far the most efficient player in the nba has been the biggest underachiver and choker over the past 9 years

    so.... whats effiency ever won anyone?

    is there a PER trophy?

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    It's just another myth.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    so far the most efficient player in the nba has been the biggest underachiver and choker over the past 9 years

    so.... whats effiency ever won anyone?

    is there a PER trophy?
    A lot.

    Since MJ (another efficient player) left:

    Tim Duncan and Shaq won many titles due to their amazing and efficient play. As did Wade and Dirk.


    Meanwhile, inefficient players like Iverson, Francis, V. Carter, and Marbury came into the league with all the hype and never won a thing.
    Last edited by tmacattack33; 02-21-2012 at 06:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Or maybe the NBA is inefficient as a whole.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by tmacattack33
    A lot.

    Since MJ (another efficient player) left:

    Tim Duncan and Shaq won many titles due to their amazing and efficient play. As did Wade and Dirk.


    Meanwhile, inefficient players like Iverson, Francis, V. Carter, and Marbury came into the league with all the hype and never won a thing.
    Kobe was more efficient than Duncan (compare their TS%) so it's pretty clear you don't know anything.

    I love how you forgot to mention Tmac as inefficient when he was more inefficient than Carter.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by tmacattack33
    A lot.

    Since MJ (another efficient player) left:

    Tim Duncan and Shaq won many titles due to their amazing and efficient play. As did Wade and Dirk.


    Meanwhile, inefficient players like Iverson, Francis, V. Carter, and Marbury came into the league with all the hype and never won a thing.
    kobe won more rings than shaq duncan wade and dirk

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    because he takes 26 shots to score 28 pts

    because he takes 30 shots to score 30 pts

    because he has to take 32 shots to score 34 pts

    its ridiculous for somebody labeled "shooting" guard.

    His 44%FG is downright disguisting in an era he is barely touched.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    so far the most efficient player in the nba has been the biggest underachiver and choker over the past 9 years

    so.... whats effiency ever won anyone?

    is there a PER trophy?


    Actually, when there was a chance to win something he was very inefficient by his standards.


    Your argument trying to discredit efficiency is invalid

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    because he takes 26 shots to score 28 pts

    because he takes 30 shots to score 30 pts

    because he has to take 32 shots to score 34 pts

    its ridiculous for somebody labeled "shooting" guard.

    His 44%FG is downright disguisting in an era he is barely touched.
    he took 27 fg to score 35.5 in 06 07 22 fg to score 31.6 the year after

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Peak Kobe as "The Man"

    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
    FG%
    2003-2004 - 43.8% - -0.1
    2004-2005 - 43.3% - -1.4
    2005-2006 - 45.0% - -0.4
    2006-2007 - 46.3% - +0.5
    2007-2008 - 45.9% - +0.2
    2008-2009 - 46.7% - +0.8
    2009-2010 - 45.6% - -0.5

    eFG%
    2003-2004 - 46.8% - -0.3
    2004-2005 - 48.2% - the exact league average
    2005-2006 - 49.1% - +0.2
    2006-2007 - 50.2% - +0.6
    2007-2008 - 50.3% - +0.5
    2008-2009 - 48.8% - -1.1
    2009-2010 - 48.7% - -1.4
    WOW. He has been BELOW the league avg since Shaq left?? Thats... not impressive.

    What you should be doing is comparing to other 2 guards. The fact that bigs shoot >>>>> Kobe is rather immaterial. He is decidedly >>>>>> Avg compared to others at his position.

    I still expected his FG% to be higher than the league avg though.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    He's no inefficient, but he is when compared to other great scorers. He is average efficiency wise when compared to the rest of the league, he just does it on great volume.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    because he takes 26 shots to score 28 pts

    because he takes 30 shots to score 30 pts

    because he has to take 32 shots to score 34 pts

    its ridiculous for somebody labeled "shooting" guard.

    His 44%FG is downright disguisting in an era he is barely touched.

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    Default Re: Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    because he takes 26 shots to score 28 pts

    because he takes 30 shots to score 30 pts

    because he has to take 32 shots to score 34 pts

    its ridiculous for somebody labeled "shooting" guard.

    His 44%FG is downright disguisting in an era he is barely touched.
    All of this. Kobrick has just been fortunate to play with exceptional front courts.

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