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Old 10-01-2019, 02:10 PM   #16
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Default Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?

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Wade averaged 15.9 ppg on 45.7% in the 2013 playoffs

Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)

So again:

1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?

Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:10 PM   #17
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Default Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?

This is true. How did Lebron go 2/4, including a terrible choke in the 2011 Finals with a player much superior to Kobe? This doesn't add up.

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Wage averaged 15.9 ppg on 45.7% in the 2013 playoffs

Hold up, Wade's supposedly so much better than Kobe. Did Lebron turn Wade into a role player or is Wade really not better than Kobe?
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:14 PM   #18
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Default Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?

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Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)

So again:

1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?

Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron
Just the opposite for 96, 97 and 98 Pippen.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:23 PM   #19
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Default Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?

It's crazy people think Bran is better than Kobe when Bran ran to a man that arguably had a better peak than Kobe.

So Kobe won with a Bosh type player WITHOUT a player that arguably peaked higher than him.

Too easy.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:25 PM   #20
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Just the opposite for 96, 97 and 98 Pippen.
Pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs

So Jordan 3-peated with 14' Wade..

13' Wade was better than those numbers... .... (20/5/5 on 48% in Finals)
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:37 PM   #21
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Pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs
That's better than Wade's 2013 and 2014

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So Jordan 3-peated with 14' Wade..
Wade didn't sniff All defensive teams like Pippen in 96-98

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13' Wade was better than those numbers... .... (20/5/5 on 48% in Finals)
Postseason Pippen 96-98 >>>>>>>>> Postseason Wade 13 and 14 and it's not even close.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:43 PM   #22
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This is true. How did Lebron go 2/4, including a terrible choke in the 2011 Finals with a player much superior to Kobe? This doesn't add up.



Hold up, Wade's supposedly so much better than Kobe. Did Lebron turn Wade into a role player or is Wade really not better than Kobe?
He wasn’t better than Kobe in 2013, no.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:45 PM   #23
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He wasn’t better than Kobe in 2013, no.

2013? Wade was only 31? How is a 31 y.o Wade not better than 17th season Kobe? Something doesn't add up here.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:46 PM   #24
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Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)

So again:

1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?

Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron
•Wade averaged 18.8 PPG on 40.5% against the Bulls in the 2011 playoffs.
•Wade averaged 15.2 PPG on 43.8% against the Spurs in the 2014 finals. He was dealing with injuries to be fair, as was Pippen for some of the series you posted.

Everyone has bad series. Even legends.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:46 PM   #25
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2013? Wade was only 31? How is a 31 y.o Wade not better than 17th season Kobe? Something doesn't add up here.
Because Kobe had better longevity. Duh.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:46 PM   #26
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Imagine Pippen as a teammate!?

Could he carry a 1-9 career loser?
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:48 PM   #27
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That's better than Wade's 2013 and 2014


Wade didn't sniff All defensive teams like Pippen in 96-98


Postseason Pippen 96-98 >>>>>>>>> Postseason Wade 13 and 14 and it's not even close.
We can only look at Wade's Finals numbers because the East didn't require an all-out effort like MJ's East did - heck, Lebron won the 2014 ECF by averaging only 22 ppg!!!!

So when we look at the Finals stats, Wade was better than Pippen in 2013, and Wade's 14' Finals equals Pippen's 96' or 98'

But the real kicker is that Lebron has another Pau Gasol-level star at 3rd option!!!... ...

So even if Wade is off, Lebron can activate Bosh - the problem is that bosh can't be activated because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter in lebron-ball.. so it's all on lebron
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:50 PM   #28
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Default Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?

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Because Kobe had better longevity. Duh.

So wade at age 31 was already worse than a 34 y.o Kobe on his last legs? How does that happen?
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:53 PM   #29
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So wade at age 31 was already worse than a 34 y.o Kobe on his last legs? How does that happen?

Because Wade's game is physically taxing. Dude was a slasher with no fear going to the cup.

Athleticism, speed and strong cuts.

He also played consistent defense. Unlike Kobe.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:56 PM   #30
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•Wade averaged 18.8 PPG on 40.5% against the Bulls in the 2011 playoffs.
•Wade averaged 15.2 PPG on 43.8% against the Spurs in the 2014 finals. He was dealing with injuries to be fair, as was Pippen for some of the series you posted.

Everyone has bad series. Even legends.
MJ won many times when his sidekick stunk it up, while Lebron didn't - that's the difference

Do I need to post the long list of Pippen's horrible series again???... MJ won nearly all of them, while lebron loses most of them and then complains with his fans... So he's nowhere near goat
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