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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    No, he's not. Only Kareem is in the conversation as the GOAT and has an iron-clad on the number-two spot for my lifetime.

    LeBron is already etched on my top-ten list, and he has top-five potential, but I have seen him disappear in too many finals games—and in at least two series—in his prime; that in itself is enough to disqualify him from being within serious striking distance from Jordan's legacy.

    That's one of the staples to Jordan's GOAT legacy; he dominated from the outset of his career and consistently, which only steepens the challenge for other ATGs to amass a better legacy as it lessens the margin for error in the finite time of their careers.

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    The only reason you have Russell up there is because of rings, and rings are won by teams. He is an incredibly inferior player to any other guy of that list

    well hes also the 2nd greatest rebounder and possibly the greatest defender of all time while winning a legit 5 league mvps before the media ruined the award

    plus he coached 2 teams he played on to championships

    so yeah its not like hes steve kerr or robert horry

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Lebron is not even the best player of his generation

    1 Kobe
    2 Duncan
    3 Shaq
    4 Lebron

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMax
    Lebron is not even the best player of his generation

    1 Kobe
    2 Duncan
    3 Shaq
    4 Lebron



    if only dirk didnt get robbed in 2006 by shady refs

    he'd be ahead of lebron too right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    well hes also the 2nd greatest rebounder and possibly the greatest defender of all time while winning a legit 5 league mvps before the media ruined the award

    plus he coached 2 teams he played on to championships

    so yeah its not like hes steve kerr or robert horry
    Hakeem is a comparable defender and ten thousand times a better offensive player than Russell. Hakeem is, therefore, a better basketball player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    Hakeem is a comparable defender and ten thousand times a better offensive player than Russell. Hakeem is, therefore, a better basketball player

    hakeem didnt grab 25 rebounds and block 10 shots a night though

    nor did hakeem lead 11 teams to nba championships in only 13 seasons

    nor did hakeem win 5 mvps from a "player vote"



    ofcourse hakeem is more advanced due to the eras and natural progression. but if we started judging guys based on that criteria then lets just throw out everyones accomplishments that took place before the 80s... then 20-30 years from now we can throw out everything magic and jordan ever did


    deal?

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    Internet "tough" kid

    There, there.
    Ahaha i am not kid . And tough? Where ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    hakeem didnt grab 25 rebounds and block 10 shots a night though

    nor did hakeem lead 11 teams to nba championships in only 13 seasons

    nor did hakeem win 5 mvps from a "player vote"



    ofcourse hakeem is more advanced due to the eras and natural progression. but if we started judging guys based on that criteria then lets just throw out everyones accomplishments that took place before the 80s... then 20-30 years from now we can throw out everything magic and jordan ever did


    deal?
    No he didn't, because he played in a much tougher and competitive era than Russell. There is a reason why many consider Rodman the best rebounder of all-time, and he didn't average 20 rpg in a single season. You really think that Russell would grab 25 a game if he was born in the 80's? You really think that Russell would win 11 rings in the current era?

    If you do, Russell should be your #1 all time hands down

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz
    bird, hakeem, duncan, magic, kareem > bron just off the top of my head.
    Hakeem, Kareem and Duncan maybe. Magic isn't even close to being better than Lebron. Give me a break. He couldn't guard a lamp post. Basketball is played on both ends of the court.
    I reckon he was better than Bird overall, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feyki
    Ahaha i am not kid . And tough? Where ?
    You are a kid though. He got you.

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    Getting a team to the finals = the new winning a championship

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    You are a kid though. He got you.
    22 years old = kid ?

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    He's not top 2 but he's top 5 atm.

    Another ring + FMVP will get him into the top 3, easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    Only Jordan is ahead of him. Lebron alreayd has 13 years of pure dominance and carrying bad teams to NBA Finals and he will add another 2 superstar years to his resume with another 5 all-star years.

    1. Jordan
    2. Lebron
    3. KAJ
    4. Shaq
    5. Hakeem


    All this tells us is that you never saw Kobe or MJ in their primes.

    Lebron at #2 he says.... wow......

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    Default Re: Lebron is #2 of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    Only Jordan is ahead of him. Lebron alreayd has 13 years of pure dominance and carrying bad teams to NBA Finals and he will add another 2 superstar years to his resume with another 5 all-star years.

    1. Jordan
    2. Lebron
    3. KAJ
    4. Shaq
    5. Hakeem

    Lol

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