Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...

[kennethgriffin]

[QUOTE=3ball]Can you imagine Jordan getting a hold of Odom and getting him to play like the all-star version of Odom EVERY NIGHT?

Honestly, Odom was more talented than Pippen... Infact, Pippen probably turns out like Odom if he doesn't play alongside MJ:


[COLOR="Blue"]JERRY KRAUSE, BULLS GM[/COLOR]:

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[3ball]

odom wouldnt have worked out in chicago.

hes all offense

whats he gonna do? demand the ball?

That's what Pippen would've been if he hadn't joined the Bulls in 1988, and watched MJ win DPOY

I'm sure Krause and everyone on the Bulls back then agrees

Of course, Pippen's offense was influenced just as much by Jordan's goat scoring..

And Pippen's scoring and moves were actually worse than Odom's.. Imagine Jordan's goat offense influencing Odom's scoring/moves and making Odom a better offense player than he already was... Yikes
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[kennethgriffin]

That's what Pippen would've been if he hadn't joined the Bulls in 1988, and watched MJ win DPOY

dude.. odom needs the ball in his hands at the top of the key to be effective.. he breaks down defenders and sets up others. hes a freelancing dribbler that basically breaks the triangle when he wants to do anything....


so when is odom supposed to do this while pippen and jordan are splitting 95% of the time with ball handling responsibilities


grant was taylor made for jordan and the 90s bulls. odom isnt


neither is pau infact... imagine gasol crying about not getting enough looks like he did in LA


and he was averaging more points than pippen


jordan was lucky he had guys that knew their role and shut their mouth. gave full effort on defense even when they didnt get their number called on offense

kobe didnt have that luxury


jordan was spoiled with dick suckers


kobe had to sacrifice his scoring to please everyone

[AintNoSunshine]

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honestly, damn near everyone.... too many to even list


Parish, Worthy, Bosh, Ginobili, rod strickland, rasheed wallace, detlef schrempf, mark price/larry nance (can't decide), bill laimbeer, kevin duckworth, sean elliot, ray allen/glenn robinson/terrell brandon (can't decide), jamal mashburn/jimmy jackson (can't decide), barkley (on rockets), tim hardaway (on warriors with mullin/webber), otis thorpe, eddie jones,


I'd say more than half the 3rd options in the league at least...

Now what about the Bulls' 2nd three-peat?... Who was the 3rd option?... Rodman??... Kukoc??... Wennington??... What a joke of offensive talent the Bulls had

Michael Jordan is a worse son than....


honestly, like, damn near everyone who didn't get their father killed

[Straight_Ballin]

This is gold.

Just when 3ball dominates ISH by pointing out how worse of a 2nd option pippen was relative to other 2nd options, he hits yo' ass with a Horace grant being the worst 3rd option and provides even FURTHER evidence that MJ was so GOAT that he needed the least amount of help to achieve finals perfection.

Did MORE with LESS!

That's the new MJ GOAT motto for all of ISH to follow!

[dubeta]

Michael Jordan is a worse son than....


honestly, like, damn near everyone who didn't get their father killed

[3ball]

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the truth hurts for mj haters:


1) Pippen was decent, but he was worse than a TON of other 2nd options

2) The OP of this thread begins to list the plethora of 3rd options better than Grant - there's far too many to list - he was worse half the league's 3rd options, and MOST 3rd options on championship teams

3) As a 4th option, BJ Armstrong was NOWHERE NEAR the 4th options on Magic's Lakers (Byron Scott, Cooper, AC Green), Bird's Celtics (Dennis Johnson), Kobe's Lakers (Bynum, Ariza, Ron Artest), Duncan's Spurs (Kawhi or Manu).. Armstrong was as ordinary as they come.
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[iamgine]

Phil Jackson was a better coach than...

[Bandito]

Man Lamar Odom was a beast. If he would've been more consistent he could've been a beast.

[3ball]

Phil Jackson was a better coach than...

How much coaching was he really doing when he relied on MJ to score 50% of the team's 4th quarter points in playoffs and Finals (while he was on floor), and at least 10 ppg more than his 2nd option for every playoff series of their careers???

No other #1 option had to do anywhere NEAR this.

Here's the reality young fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=20m23s
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[Fallen Angel]

Robert Horry...

Robert Horry was the 3rd option for the Rockets during both championship titles in the 90s, the second title ending in a sweep of the Orlando Magic (the same Magic team that beat Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the second round).

[iamgine]

How much coaching was he really doing

A lot. Triangle system.

[pastis]

[3ball]

Robert Horry...

Nope... Pippen > Horry.

Orlando Magic (the same Magic team that beat Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the second round).

Consider the talent on the Bulls compared to other champions - Pippen was decent, but he was worse than many other 2nd options...

And obviously, this thread is about how Grant was worse than a ton of 3rd options... Meanwhile, Armstrong was a BAD 4th option compared to Kobe's Ron Artest/Bynum, Magic's Cooper/Scott/AC Green, Duncan's Manu or Kawhi, Bird's Dennis Johnson.

So when you have a team that has marginal talent compared to the typical champion, CHEMISTRY is how that team wins.. Unfortunately, there was no time for MJ to develop the chemistry he needed to offset his less-talented supporting cast - [COLOR="Navy"]plus he didn't have a PF, not even 11/8 Horace Grant[/COLOR].

But in his first FULL season back where he had the time to foster sufficient chemistry, he won the championship and began restoring the Bulls to 3-peat dynasty status, thus proving his goat impact.
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[3ball]