Better peak - Manu Ginobili vs. Ray Allen

[StateOfMind12]

Who do you guys think was better at their peaks/absolute best? I'm going with Manu but I want to see what you guys think.

[L.Kizzle]

[Noob Saibot]

bout to sleep, and I like both players. but I'll take Allen. That jumpshot is money.

[poido123]

Ginobili. Much more rounded player and super clutch.

[Killbot]

Ray Allen

[coin24]

Rayray

[KG215]

This one is tough. Ginobili's numbers don't do him justice as a player. You almost have to look at his per-36 numbers to get a good gauge, because he is someone who is/was capable of handling that many minutes, but wasn't ever asked to do so due to his role and playing for Popovich who has always managed minutes more strictly than most coaches.

He was very good in the 2005 playoffs. I'd probably consider that his peak season although his regular season numbers were better in 2008. But in the 2005 playoffs he played at a very high level en route to a championship. Don't know if he's my answer, but I'm trying to put some food for thought out there for those that rush to to BBR to look at the stats and see Allen with the decisive advantage.

[Jacks3]

The guy who can play 40 MPG.

[TonyD]

Ray, hands down. I'll elaborate on this later when I have time, if this thread isn't dead.

[BlueandGold]

Obviously Allen..

[Gotterdammerung]

Ray Allen was awesome during the 2005 playoffs, but I'd pick Manu Ginobili every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Allen's probably the greatest outside shooter in league history, but Ginobili is a proven champion who does everything at a high level.

Had Ginobili averaged 35-40 minutes per game, as well as sustained durability, he'd be one of the greatest guards in league history. Top 10 easily. As it is, his limited minutes curtail his total statistics, but he always produces on court in all categories, and best of all, in the clutch during the money season.

[Haymaker]

Peak? Allen no doubt. Manu is still the better player though.

[noosaman]

Ginobli by far. He's better at everything except 3 pt shooting

[SHAQisGOAT]

Ray-Ray but close. Ginobili's amazing throughout his career, but Ray had to be the main man.

[rmt]

Since the OP's question is better peak, the answer should be Manu, who is a better overall player.

If I had to choose 1 player for my team, I'd pick Ray hands down. Manu has played 10 years - 8 of them under 30 minutes/games (the other 2 were 30.3 and 31.1 mins/game). He is perfect as an energizer off the bench, but he cannot sustain it for long else the errors creep into his game (and he makes stupid, bone-headed mistakes like the foul on Dirk with 22 sec to go). He's also very fragile. Last year he played only 34 games. In 08-09, he played only 44. A player is not much good sitting on the bench. And it's not like Ray isn't clutch as hell too - that 3 pointer never gets old. Did I mention that Manu can't carry a team the way Ray did in SEA?