Would prime Jordan or Payton be able top stop Curry?

[tpols]

Reggie is 6'7" with longer arms/standing reach than Curry, and obviously much stronger

reggie miller had no full body strength at all.. he had endurance, thats about it. Length doesnt mean anything when curry could shoot from distances that would make it irrelevant.

[3ball]

reggie miller had no full body strength at all.. he had endurance, thats about it. Length doesnt mean anything when curry could shoot from distances that would make it irrelevant.

[COLOR="Navy"]You said Miller:[/COLOR]

"had no advantages to get free off ball that curry wouldnt have"

But since Miller is 6'7" and much longer, that's the most important advantage to have - ask Curry if he'd like to be 4 inches taller..

Also, players that are 6'7" are generally stronger than similarly-thin 6'3" players... Miller banged with MJ in the post for a decade... Curry wouldn't be caught dead on MJ due specifically to size and corresponding strength issues.

[tpols]

being 6'7 and longer, like i said, is inconsequential since Curry can shoot it from a range that would deem any length advantage unmentionable. *

*worrying about getting your shot blocked at 23 ft out could present problems for a smaller player, but when said smaller player can launch up to 30 ft out, the unpredictableness of where he's going to shoot from long range makes up for him being shorter.. obviously.



there's no doubt.. that if Reggie Miller, and his long, yet tiny petite frame, could last 90s beating and still average 60TS for is career, that curry could do much better given his strengths over reggie in pretty much every aspect of the game.

[Sarcastic]

If Curry can hit efficiently from 30, he'll do OK. If he's not hitting those, he's gonna have a really long night.

[Soundwave]

Yes I believe so. He's just too small and both Jordan (prime/younger) and Payton are as quick laterally as he is so he can't just dribble around them.

[iznogood]

Handchecking allows the defender to more easily guide the offensive player AWAY from screens he wants to use, and also allow the primary defender to recover better if he chooses to follow over the top of the screen, since he can have his hand/arm on the offensive player the whole time, thus not allowing the offensive player to get clean separation over the pick. Lastly, handchecking/greater physicality meant that the second defender in the P&R didn't have to play as far off and could also guide/corral the offensive player for that extra second or two until the primary defender recovered.

Anyone who's played while being handchecked and then played in a strictly reffed environment with no handcheck knows that the freedom of movement and the ability to get space and separation via screens is enhanced dramatically in the absence of handchecking/physicality.

Handchecking didn't stop Stockton or Mark Price or any other skilled player from getting to their desired spots on the floor. Stockton made a living out of backing down players on the left wing, who were guarding him too close and than drove them straight into a pick, because they were unable to get a good angle to pass it. Using handchecking effectively the way you described often resulted in either pushing or holding, even in the 90s. That much I do remember. And now you're adding in looser ballhandling rules and improved off the dribble 3 point shooting...i'm not saying that the ability to play tougher doesn't help the defender in some situations, but I do think that it wouldn't make a noticeable difference when you're somebody that can pull up from anywhere on the floor, uses screens on and off the ball and handles the ball the way Curry does.
Finally, I don't believe that the handchecking is really banned to the extent that some are suggesting. Looking at practically any playoff game and you'll see that the players still handcheck a ton and get called for it very rarely.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VFNjUyAR_U

[Quickening]

Just lol at thinking anyone is going to stop the best 3 point shooter ever, who is quick and has a great handle

[Da_Realist]

Curry wouldn't be the offensive machine he is now because you can't touch him. If he gets by you, the lane is so wide open he can easily get a layup. Either a three or a layup. Defenses forced guys to shoot more midrange shots back then because it was hard to free yourself from your guy (due to handchecking) and when you did you ran into Olajuwon in the paint.

Yet Curry wouldn't be shut down either. It doesn't matter how quick the defender is. Curry's release is quicker than any defender's ability to recover from a hard screen. All he needs is a sliver of daylight and half a second.

[dhsilv]

Handchecking didn't stop Stockton or Mark Price or any other skilled player from getting to their desired spots on the floor. Stockton made a living out of backing down players on the left wing, who were guarding him too close and than drove them straight into a pick, because they were unable to get a good angle to pass it. Using handchecking effectively the way you described often resulted in either pushing or holding, even in the 90s. That much I do remember. And now you're adding in looser ballhandling rules and improved off the dribble 3 point shooting...i'm not saying that the ability to play tougher doesn't help the defender in some situations, but I do think that it wouldn't make a noticeable difference when you're somebody that can pull up from anywhere on the floor, uses screens on and off the ball and handles the ball the way Curry does.
Finally, I don't believe that the handchecking is really banned to the extent that some are suggesting. Looking at practically any playoff game and you'll see that the players still handcheck a ton and get called for it very rarely.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VFNjUyAR_U

OK, players in the past would turn their backs and post people up from 50 feet back...hand checking may still happen but NOTHING like in the past.

[Quickening]

Curry wouldn't be the offensive machine he is now because you can't touch him. If he gets by you, the lane is so wide open he can easily get a layup. Either a three or a layup. Defenses forced guys to shoot more midrange shots back then because it was hard to free yourself from your guy (due to handchecking) and when you did you ran into Olajuwon in the paint.

Yet Curry wouldn't be shut down either. It doesn't matter how quick the defender is. Curry's release is quicker than any defender's ability to recover from a hard screen. All he needs is a sliver of daylight and half a second.

Yet more ppg were scored back then, despite all these suffocating defences.

[Da_Realist]

Yet more ppg were scored back then, despite all these suffocating defences.

Players overall were more skilled within the team concept back then. Most of today's players are one on one specialists. It's easier to guard guys pounding the rock for 15 seconds before making their move. That's why they had to change the rules and open up the lane. Golden State and San Antonio are the only teams in the league that know how to play together offensively. It's no surprise they are killing teams in record fashion.

[dhsilv]

Players overall were more skilled within the team concept back then. Most of today's players are one on one specialists. It's easier to guard guys pounding the rock for 15 seconds before making their move. That's why they had to change the rules and open up the lane. Golden State and San Antonio are the only teams in the league that know how to play together offensively. It's no surprise they are killing teams in record fashion.

What? You're joking right? One on One defense doesn't even matter today. The 90's was all one on one, it was the dark era of horrible basketball!

[feyki]

What? You're joking right? One on One defense doesn't even matter today. The 90's was all one on one, it was the dark era of horrible basketball!

No man . Jordan got six champ. in that era . 90's must best era of nba history .

[tontoz]

I remember Reggie Miller being asked about Bruce Bowens defense and how he handled it. Reggies response was "he can't guard what he can't catch".

Curry is obviously great with the ball but he is also great off the ball. Nobody is stopping him. A great defender might be able to slow him down a little but that's all.

[Optimus Prime]

Yes, easily. Kids vastly overrating the kinder, gentler soft NBA of today.