Would Kobe's legacy look better if he had this career arc?

[Magic 32]

1996-2002 = The number 1 guy on a crappy team.

2003-2009 = The number 1 guy on a contending "top 5'ish" team.

2010-2013 = On a contending team as a second/third option.

???

[SilkkTheShocker]

Still not better than LeBron.

[Magic 32]

Still not better than LeBron.

not the question.

[TonyMontana]

It would look worse than LeBrons, so the same

[LongLiveTheKing]

Maybe if he was actually good as a rookie or 2nd year player. It took him 3 seasons to average 20 points.

[Magic 32]

Lots of agitated Lebron stans.

Any serious answers though?

[Unbiased_one]

1996-2002 = The number 1 guy on a crappy team.

2003-2009 = The number 1 guy on a contending "top 5'ish" team.

2010-2013 = On a contending team as a second/third option.

???

In his first couple of years kobe probably wasn't capable of leading a team (he wasn't even a starter after all). It would have been interesting to watch.

But we have no idea.

EDIT: the first two posts are about LeBron...typical ISH.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I would have to say no only because top 5 team is a pretty wide margin between teams...top 2? That would change it

[Magic 32]

In his first couple of years kobe probably wasn't capable of leading a team (he wasn't even a starter after all). But we have no idea. Hypotheticals like this are useless.

In his second year he could probably be accepted like Wall is in Washington.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzMWKo0uDu8

And I think this is an interesting question.

[IncarceratedBob]

Maybe if he was actually good as a rookie or 2nd year player. It took him 3 seasons to average 20 points.

How long did it take LeBron to win a ring..lol

[asdf1990]

in this arc does he still have big's carrying him to rings? you gotta be more specific

[Magic 32]

I would have to say no only because top 5 team is a pretty wide margin between teams...top 2? That would change it

Well, outside of Kobe, his 08-10 teams were not definitely better than everyone else's.

[Magic 32]

in this arc does he still have big's carrying him to rings? you gotta be more specific

Well, if he can get the guy who is 0-12 without him in the playoff, sure.

[K Xerxes]

Well, he wouldn't be first option on really any team for his first few years. He just wasn't that good coming out of high school, even in the minutes he played.

From 00/01 onwards, he'd have filled the stat sheet and not really gone anywhere, been a top 5 player every year though. No rings at all.

Then you're looking at probably a similar story from 05 to the end of his career. 2 rings, 2 FMVP, 1 MVP... not a more impressive resume than the one he currently has.

I don't know about other people, but I actually value the three rings he had with Shaq. To cast them away as sidekick rings is ludicrous (except maybe the first), but he was in a 1a/b situation with Shaq in 00 and 01.

Does that mean he would be any better on a crappy team? Not really.

For me, he stays a locked in top 11 player of all time, strong convo for top 10. However, I don't really look at accomplishments as much as the next person, so I'd value his ability on the court, which wouldn't change regardless of the team he has.

[Magic 32]

I don't know about other people, but I actually value the three rings he had with Shaq. To cast them away as sidekick rings is ludicrous (except maybe the first), but he was in a 1a/b situation with Shaq in 00 and 01.

Well, they do him no good in the top 15 discussions.

And I do think that he would have accumulated more than 1 regular season MVP.

The way he played in 03, 06 and 07.