shaq coulda won 3 straight if you replaced kobe with any other quality 2nd option

[dubeta]

didnt tim duncan win a finals mvp averaging 20ppg on 40% before





duncans defense though!

This isnt about Duncan, duncan was carried as well



Stop dodging the facts

22 points 40% FG


and then Gasol outplays him for the last 2 rings


So Kobe:


-Was never the best player in a championship team

-shoots 40% career in the finals




-oh and only 1 MVP in 20 years

[ShaqTwizzle]

kobes overall playoff average was 25/5/5 and even better during the WC rounds

Kobe 2000 playoff averages over the games they won (15 games).
20.3 / 4.5-apg on 52%TS

Kobe against the West in 2002 : 26 / 4.4-apg on 49%TS

[kennethgriffin]

This isnt about Duncan, duncan was carried as well



Stop dodging the facts

22 points 40% FG


and then Gasol outplays him for the last 2 rings


So Kobe:


-Was never the best player in a championship team

-shoots 40% career in the finals




-oh and only 1 MVP in 20 years

but youre wrong

thats whats so funny




i can just as easly say


"no jews were killed during world war 2"

or

"santa is real"



i can say it all day every day on a message board for years

so much so that even i myself start to believe it


but it doesnt make it relevant to anyone else i preach it to


so continue your ranting day in day out you tired piece of sh*t

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe 2000 playoff averages over the games they won (15 games).
20.3 / 4.5-apg on 52%TS

Kobe against the West in 2002 : 26 / 4.4-apg on 49%TS

and shaq still doesnt have a ring without kobes game 7 wcf heroics

[GIF REACTION]

meltdown

[kennethgriffin]

meltdown

i can't imagine what it must have felt like...


witnessing kobe win those 2 titles after dumping shaq at the side of the curb like yesterdays garbage


i can tell it still stings even to this very day

[ShaqTwizzle]

[kennethgriffin]

yup. that pic pretty much sums up shaq fans reactions


even shaq himself admitted on his podcast that he was "pissed" when kobe got 1 more ring than him


so if shaq himself is mad as F*ck


then i'd imagine his fans share his feelings

[Dbrog]

but youre wrong

thats whats so funny




i can just as easly say


"no jews were killed during world war 2"

or

"santa is real"



i can say it all day every day on a message board for years

so much so that even i myself start to believe it


but it doesnt make it relevant to anyone else i preach it to


so continue your ranting day in day out you tired piece of sh*t

Most ironic post award? Anyone?

[dubeta]

yup. that pic pretty much sums up shaq fans reactions


even shaq himself admitted on his podcast that he was "pissed" when kobe got 1 more ring than him


so if shaq himself is mad as F*ck


then i'd imagine his fans share his feelings

Whats there to get pissed about?

Didnt Horry end up with more rings than Duncan?


Doesnt Wade have more than LeBron?


If a role player gets more rings, it doesnt matter, especially when they still have less FMVP's







FMVPs + MVPs + PER is all that matters

[kennethgriffin]

Whats there to get pissed about?

Didnt Horry end up with more rings than Duncan?


Doesnt Wade have more than LeBron?


If a role player gets more rings, it doesnt matter, especially when they still have less FMVP's







FMVPs + MVPs + PER is all that matters

LOL this guy pulling the horry 7ppg ring count excuse


thats when you know he just shat his pants

[ShaqTwizzle]

then i'd imagine his fans share his feelings

Meh.
Shaq was never in competition with Kobe.

I mean 00-04 Shaq >>> 06-10 Kobe
And 94-99 Shaq >>>>> 00-05 Kobe

Longevity
----
Shaq elite from : 93-06 (14 years) + maybe 09 (15)
Kobe elite from : 00-12 (13 years)
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Shaq wins again[/COLOR]

No matter how you slice it Shaq had a vastly superior prime, peak & career.
Just being real now.

[dubeta]

Meh.
Shaq was never in competition with Kobe.

I mean 00-04 Shaq >>> 06-10 Kobe
And 94-99 Shaq >>>>> 00-05 Kobe

Longevity
----
Shaq elite from : 93-06 (14 years) + maybe 09 (15)
Kobe elite from : 00-12 (13 years)
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Shaq wins again[/COLOR]

No matter how you slice it Shaq had a vastly superior prime, peak & career.
Just being real now.

Solid points

And Kobe wasnt elite in 2000 and 2005

Furthermore Kobe struggled in 2012, but was good in 2013, so they both cancel each other out

Overall Kobe only had 11 elite seasons

[kennethgriffin]

Meh.
Shaq was never in competition with Kobe.

I mean 00-04 Shaq >>> 06-10 Kobe
And 94-99 Shaq >>>>> 00-05 Kobe

Longevity
----
Shaq elite from : 93-06 (14 years) + maybe 09 (15)
Kobe elite from : 00-12 (13 years)
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Shaq wins again[/COLOR]

No matter how you slice it Shaq had a vastly superior prime, peak & career.
Just being real now.

shaq after 2004 - " you cant win without me"

kobe after 2004 - "pack your bags fat *ss"

shaq after 2008 - "he couldnt do without me!!!!!!! taste my ass!!!!! **** you kobe!"

kobe after 2010 - "i got one more than shaq"

shaq this month on his podcast - "i was pissed when you got 1 more than me. then you said it on tv and i was like... aww man he got me."

[ShaqTwizzle]

Yeah Kobe won more Rings.
He also had far better circumstances and weaker competition.
You think the 09 Lakers would beat the 95 Rockets?
You think the 10 Lakers would beat the 96 Bulls?


[COLOR="Red"]Imagine if Prime Shaq got to play with what Kobe got to play with.[/COLOR]

00-02 Kobe played with 00-02 Shaq
So
[COLOR="Navy"]94-96 Shaq gets to play with 91-93 Jordan[/COLOR]

03-04 Kobe played with 03-04 Shaq
So
[COLOR="Navy"]97-99 Shaq gets to play with 97-98 Jordan[/COLOR]

08-10 Kobe played with Peak Gasol and Odom
So
[COLOR="Navy"]00-02 Shaq gets to play with 2002 Kobe, Prime Odom and of course Phil.[/COLOR]

Shaq would have 8+ Rings with Kobe's amazing casts.
Nuff said.