Is Jeff Van Gundy on crack?

[Human Error]

Saying that Wade is in the top 4-5 in terms of 2-guards?

-Jerry West
-Kobe Bryant
-Michael Jordan
-Clyde Drexler
-Allen Iverson

Drop dead you idiot. Iverson and Drexler??

[chopchop20]

Later in his career, West was a point guard (led the league in assists)

[chopchop20]

West was a PG.

And if you want to place him at SG, West is the 2nd best all time then. he's better than kobe, go look up his stats and accomplishments. And he did that before the 3pt line ever existed. West has better scoring on better efficiency and better stats.

West was the original "MJ' in terms of clutchness and greatness. That's why he's the logo. He'll never be higher than Kobe because of his record in the Finals though.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

West was the original "MJ' in terms of clutchness and greatness. That's why he's the logo. He'll never be higher than Kobe because of his record in the Finals though.

That's not fair though. Celtics had a ton of HoFers.

[chopchop20]

That's not fair though. Celtics had a ton of HoFers.

If you listen to interviews with those old Celtic players, they always said Wes t was the best.

One interesting fact about West.... he won the Finals MVP when his team LOST. Think he averaged like 39 points per game

[deja vu]

And some people still think the world is flat :

It's my opinion, not an undisputed fact.

[Clifton]

LOL @ OP. Has anything ever looked more out of place than AI next to the "Big 4" of Jordan, West, Drexler, and Kobe?

And yes Wade is obviously the fifth guy. We can argue about the order of Kobe, Wade, Drex, and West, but that's the second tier at that position it seems to me.

[DMAVS41]

He's the 4th best sg ever in my opinion.

Not crazy at all.

Why do people think 1 playoffs makes a career?

Wade has averaged;

24/5/5/2/1 on 56% TS for his career in the playoffs (9 years)

4 trips to the finals, 2 titles (maybe 3 in a few days), 1 finals mvp

honestly, the only two sg's that for sure deserve to be ranked over him are MJ and Kobe if he racks up another title this year...

[DaSeba5]

He's the 4th best sg ever in my opinion.

Not crazy at all.

Why do people think 1 playoffs makes a career?

Wade has averaged;

24/5/5/2/1 on 56% TS for his career in the playoffs (9 years)

4 trips to the finals, 2 titles (maybe 3 in a few days), 1 finals mvp

honestly, the only two sg's that for sure deserve to be ranked over him are MJ and Kobe if he racks up another title this year...

This

[LikeABosh]

Yea, because it's soooo abundantly clear that Iverson and Drexler are far superior, right? I think you are on crack.

[aj1987]

Can the people listing Drexler and AI tell me why they are better than Wade?

[chopchop20]

He's the 4th best sg ever in my opinion.

Not crazy at all.

Why do people think 1 playoffs makes a career?

Wade has averaged;

24/5/5/2/1 on 56% TS for his career in the playoffs (9 years)

4 trips to the finals, 2 titles (maybe 3 in a few days), 1 finals mvp

honestly, the only two sg's that for sure deserve to be ranked over him are MJ and Kobe if he racks up another title this year...

Wade disappears a LOT lately in the playoffs. And his excuse is always injuries.

[aj1987]

Wade disappears a LOT lately in the playoffs. And his excuse is always injuries.

Still doesn't take away the fact that he had one of the greatest Finals performances of all time. Another legendary one 2011 (should've won that one!). Lastly a pretty good one in 2012. He hasn't even had a single bad playoff run untill this years. Last year, he scored 23/5/4/2/2 on 46% playing with an injury that required surgery.

Also, Wade is miles ahead of Drexler and AI on the defensive end.

[jrong]

Saying that Wade is in the top 4-5 in terms of 2-guards?

-Jerry West
-Kobe Bryant
-Michael Jordan
-Clyde Drexler
-Allen Iverson

Wade blew past Drexler long ago. I'm not going to do the work for you. Go to Basketball Reference and spend five minutes looking at each player's page.

And the only possible way you can rank Iverson over him is if you think all that matters is scoring. And he's not even a better scorer because Wade is so much more efficient. He may be a better outside shooter, but even that is debatable because AI was such a volume chucker.

And Wade is literally better at everything else a player can do on the basketball court.

Jordan/Bryant/West/Wade

[chopchop20]

Still doesn't take away the fact that he had one of the greatest Finals performances of all time. Another legendary one 2011 (should've won that one!). Lastly a pretty good one in 2012. He hasn't even had a single bad playoff run untill this years. Last year, he scored 23/5/4/2/2 on 46% playing with an injury that required surgery.

Also, Wade is miles ahead of Drexler and AI on the defensive end.

Still... too many questions every year about his head and heart. And spare me the stats... on paper, LeBron looks like he's had a great Finals this year