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Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
And that Kobe's best Finals performance was absolutely crushed by LBJs in the previous series because Orlando don't try against LeBron?
When did LeBron face the Magic in the finals?
Please don't compare playoffs to the Finals.
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I argue against Kobe
Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
That Magic team was weak as hell and had no perimeter defense.
Lebron only lost to them because he didn't have a Gasol to shut Dwight down like Kobe did.
Kobe Stan Translation : Please dont compare Playoffs to Finals we all know how much Kobe usually sucks in the Finals.
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Local High School Star
Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Does it really need to be quoted AGAIN? I thought we already covered this on these boards. Do a search next time before making such a ridiculous claim.
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Seasons over 30 points per game:
Michael Jordan: 8
Kobe Bryant: 2
Seasons over 32 points per game:
Michael Jordan: 5
Kobe Bryant: 1
In NBA history, there are 13 50 point games with under 50% shooting, and Kobe Bryant is responsible for 6 of them.
Kobe Bryant also has:
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 10+ points. (5-21 shooting)
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 30+ points. (11-29)
Worst and 4th worst known game scores for a player scoring 40+ points. (17-47, 12-30)
Regular season
Seasons under 50% shooting
Kobe Bryant: 14
Michael Jordan: 9
Seasons under 48% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 14
Michael Jordan: 5
Seasons over 50% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan: 6
Seasons over 52% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan: 4
Regular season
Games with under 50% shooting
Michael Jordan: 489
Kobe Bryant: 623
Regular season
Games with under 48% shooting
Michael Jordan: 458
Kobe Bryant: 599
Regular season
Games with under 46% shooting
Michael Jordan: 388
Kobe Bryant: 530
Regular season
Games with under 44% shooting
Michael Jordan: 296
Kobe Bryant: 452
Regular season
Games with under 42% shooting
Michael Jordan: 234
Kobe Bryant: 393
Regular season
Games with under 40% shooting
Michael Jordan: 158
Kobe Bryant: 317
Regular season
Games with under 35% shooting
Michael Jordan: 88
Kobe Bryant: 192
Regular season
Games with under 30% shooting
Michael Jordan: 41
Kobe Bryant: 97
Regular season
Games with 60% or better shooting
Michael "Air" Jordan: 173
Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 123
Regular season
Games with 50% or better shooting
Michael "Air" Jordan: 556
Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 393
Regular season
Games with 20 shots made on 60% or better shooting
MJ: 16
Kobe: 3
Rookie of the Year
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No
In his rookie year, Michael Jordan led his team in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals. Kobe Bryant wasn't good enough to beat out Eddie Jones for the starting spot his rookie year.
All-Rookie First Team
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 12 or more assists
Michael Air Jordan: 32
Kobe Bryant: 19
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 10 or more assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 87
Kobe Bean Bryant: 74
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 5 or more assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 663
Kobe Bean Bryant: 593
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with less than 3 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 179
Kobe Bryant: 261
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with less than 2 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 61
Kobe Bryant: 142
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 0 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 7
Kobe Bryant: 57
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with at least 15 rebounds:
Michael Air Jordan: 10
Kobe Bryant: 5
Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with at least 12 rebounds:
Michael Air Jordan: 66
Kobe Bryant: 29
Percentage of points scored on free throws:
Michael Air Jordan: 22.9%
Kobe Bryant: 25.1%
Record in games with 30+ shot attempts
Michael Air Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 46-61 (.368)
Michael Jordan shot his team to wins, Kobe Bryant shoots his team out of wins.
Seasons with at least 200 steals:
Michael Air Jordan: 6
Kobe Bryant: 0
Seasons with at least 150 steals:
Michael Air Jordan: 9
Kobe Bryant: 2
Seasons with at least 100 blocks:
Michael Air Jordan: 2
Kobe Bryant: 0
Seasons with at least 75 blocks:
Michael Air Jordan: 4
Kobe Bryant: 0
Defensive Player of the Year awards
Michael Jordan: 1
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael averaged 35 points per game when he won defensive player of the year. The next closest scorer to win it had 27 ppg. Guards rarely receive Defensive Player of the Year. Think about the level of energy it takes to lead the league in scoring, and be the league's best defender.
Regular season & Playoffs combined
40 point or higher games
MJ: 211
Kobe: 115
Regular season & Playoffs combined
30 point or higher games
MJ: 671
Kobe: 415
Career Player Efficiency Rating
Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.50
Olympic Gold Medals
Michael Jordan: 2
Kobe Bryant: 1
Michael Jordan is one of three players to win an Olympic gold as both an amateur (1984) and professional (1992). The other players are Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin, who did it with him.
All Star Game:
Jordan
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Bankai
Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Originally Posted by Nick Young
lawl ringless nash who never went to a finals has two and also more MVPs than Shaq and as much as Karl Malone!
MVP Is a popularity contest. Kobe deserves atleast 4 MVPs if the voters actually gave the award to the best player and not just the most marketable story.
In popularity.
Kobe > Nash.
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I argue against Kobe
Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
@ Kobe deserving 4 MVP's.
He only had 2 years where you could argue with he was the MVP of the league.
06 + 07.
The rest he was never even close to having a case for the Award.
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Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Kobe destruction here:
http://hoopspeak.com/2010/10/kobe-br...-conversation/
Not even fair, poor little self appointed nicknamed mamba. Every kind of stat proves Jordan was streets ahead of Kobe.
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barnett114
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
Jacks3 police, thank you for the constant updates
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Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
Originally Posted by JohnnyWall
When did LeBron face the Magic in the finals?
The games were three days apart. You guys are talking about the exact same teams the exact same week.
LeBron had one of the most spactacular and ridiculous games ever played. I just remember Kenny, Chuck and everyone after the game stunned, saying you can't just post a guy at the ft line and have him win the game for you. It just can't happen. We'll see how it works for LA now that coach Brown is over there...
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Re: Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time
The "greatest in greatest of all time" doesn't get swept in the playoffs by the Mavericks like a b-tch. Sorry.
It's going to be funny when the Heat win and everyone proclaims LeBron as the greatest of all time.
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