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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Here is my top 20 after Kobe wins his 4th championship.
1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Wilt (edited, I mistakenly put Magic ahead of Wilt earlier)
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Shaq.
7. Russell
8. Olajuwon
9. Kobe
10. Duncan
11. Moses Malone
12. West
13. George Mikan
14. Oscar
15. Dr J.
16. Elgin Baylor
17. Karl Malone
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Charles Barkley
20. Isiah Thomas
wonder what Dennis did in those 6 years to go up 21 places....
Well to be fair, it takes a while to solidify a person's historical reputation. This happens all the time in presidential rankings. For instance, Bill Clinton is up from 21st to 15th in ten years in the C-Span survey. Nixon also moved up six spots to 27th during this period.
Last edited by Roundball_Rock; 06-13-2009 at 06:22 PM.
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Local High School Star
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Changed his hair color.
Attempted a few failed comebacks as well. I love Dennis though, no hard feelings.
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Learning to shoot layups
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soundcloud.com/agua-1
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Does anybody have an editor's note that explains any of this?
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National High School Star
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
My dream roster:
No improvisations. Players at the positions they played in their primes.
PG: Magic / Oscar
SG: MJ / Kobe
SF: Bird / Lebron *
PF: Duncan / Malone
C: Wilt / Kareem
Russell and Shaq as 11th and 12th men.
*Dr.J is greater career wise, but it's almost sure that Lebron will surpass him.
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Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
Here is my top 20 after Kobe wins his 4th championship.
1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bird
6. Shaq.
7. Russell
8. Olajuwon
9. Kobe
10. Duncan
11. Moses Malone
12. West
13. George Mikan
14. Oscar
15. Dr J.
16. Elgin Baylor
17. Karl Malone
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Charles Barkley
20. Isiah Thomas
Excellent list
I do disagree with Magic being #3 though (over Wilt/Bird). I'm a huge Bird fan so there's a bit of a bias.
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4/27/91-7/23/09
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Flat out most of you guys are idiots. I heard fatal9 say oscar at fifth? Why not. He is one of, if not the greatest all around players ever. Without him Kobe and MJ wouldnt be have the players they were. Could you imagine them without the fadeaway jump shot? Or a head fake?
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Local High School Star
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Originally Posted by phoenix18
Flat out most of you guys are idiots. I heard fatal9 say oscar at fifth? Why not. He is one of, if not the greatest all around players ever. Without him Kobe and MJ wouldnt be have the players they were. Could you imagine them without the fadeaway jump shot? Or a head fake?
Oscar's total lack of team success makes him a hard sell for the back end of the top 10, let alone the top 5.
And yes, even though he was a 30/10/10 player and none of his peers were (a point loss on some people who want to scream about stat inflation), his statistical outputs would be on par with a good many players today adjusted for pace and minutes played.
Oscar has 1 ring as sidekick. With the exception of Wilt, all of the top 10 have at least two rings as a LEAD player, and most have more than that.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Thanks for the props, fatal. I did screw up, though. I did not realize I put Magic ahead of Wilt.
I do believe that Bird's peak>Magic's peak but overall they are close and I give Magic the edge due to him having 5 rings to Bird's 3 and more importantly the "what if?" factor. If Magic did not get HIV how much more did he have left in him? I doubt he would have won another title but he could have added another MVP or two to his resume.
As to Oscar, great post by Bush4ever. A lot of us place a high emphasis on winning when ranking players and Oscar is hurt by that. If you are more of a stats oriented guy as far as rankings go then Oscar will be very high on your list, though.
Last edited by Roundball_Rock; 06-13-2009 at 06:25 PM.
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BlackMamba24
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
TRASH list. kobe is the real goat.
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Speed Demon
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Wow
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Banned
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
Here is my top 20 after Kobe wins his 4th championship.
1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Wilt (edited, I mistakenly put Magic ahead of Wilt earlier)
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Shaq.
7. Russell
8. Olajuwon
9. Kobe
10. Duncan
11. Moses Malone
12. West
13. George Mikan
14. Oscar
15. Dr J.
16. Elgin Baylor
17. Karl Malone
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Charles Barkley
20. Isiah Thomas
Well to be fair, it takes a while to solidify a person's historical reputation. This happens all the time in presidential rankings. For instance, Bill Clinton is up from 21st to 15th in ten years in the C-Span survey. Nixon also moved up six spots to 27th during this period.
Kobe isn't where Duncan is. Please!!! Gasol led that team overall in win shares.
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Hip Hop
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
lmfao...
Jordan
Bird
Magic
those are locked... no one's ****ing with them...
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Sonics bandwagoner
Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
Kobe Bryant top 10? what the hell is going on?
No way he is higher than Duncan.
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Re: Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time
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