Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

[FKAri]

Bird and Shaq.

Stop trying to be edgy you phucking phaggit.

[bizil]

When u combine scoring skillset, handles, passing, and defense as a package, I would say Kobe is the most skilled of all time. Scoring skillset wise, he has the best skillset ever. And from, he had great handles, passing, and defense for a SG. On top of it, could play or defend PG, SG, and SF at great levels if needed.

[3ball]

When u combine scoring skillset, handles, passing, and defense as a package, I would say Kobe is the most skilled of all time. Scoring skillset wise, he has the best skillset ever. And from, he had great handles, passing, and defense for a SG. On top of it, could play or defend PG, SG, and SF at great levels if needed.

I don't disagree, but i do wonder if having 10 skyhook-like go-to moves is better than kobe's 100 moves..... where he isn't nearly as good at them as MJ's pet moves, which worked with much higher frequency and efficiency:

"Clyde tapped the ball away from Jordan and converted it into a dunk, setting off a surge that evened the series at two games apiece. Nearly giddy, I went into the locker room afterward and found Clyde slumped in front of his locker, completely exhausted, an ice bag on every joint. And I said, “Clyde, that was a brilliant steal. You read Jordan perfectly.”

He looked up at me, shook his head, and said, “Stop, stop, you don’t understand. Most guys have two or three go-to moves; Jordan has nine. I guessed right, that’s all. I got lucky. Sometimes you get the bear, but usually the bear gets you.” Clyde knew the score. The Bulls, on the cusp of a dynasty, beat us in six games.”

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/clyde-dre...ant-92-finals/

Clyde is right - MJ had a ton of moves, but about 10 that he had mastered at a goat level... i.e. turnaround fadeaway.. that running jumpshot off one leg.. etc... And each move was standardized with footwork so perfect, it looked basic
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[Rocket]

Magic Johnson does not get the respect he deserves from the young people here. Putting him at #17 is utterly ridiculous. Also, Hakeen "the Dream" should make any skill ranking list. The guy had guard skills in a center body.

[Gougou]

CP3, Curry, Kyrie, Allen Iverson.

Big Men:

Hakeem, Duncan.

[kennethgriffen]

why is ISH the leader of the free world in overlooking defense


i woulda went with


#1 - Kobe Bryant
#2 - Michael Jordan
#3 - Larry Bird
#4 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#5 - Kevin Garnett
#6 - Kevin Durant
#7 - Jerry West
#8 - John Stockton
#9 - Tim Duncan
#10 - Dwyane Wade

HM - Chris Paul ( can't put him in my top 10 cause hes a choker )




sure if its just raw offensive skills guys like nash, curry, kyrie, iverson, maravich, lebron, magic will be up there


but theres one entirely other side of the floor thats played 50% of the time

[superduper]

why is ISH the leader of the free world in overlooking defense


i woulda went with


#1 - Kobe Bryant
#2 - Michael Jordan
#3 - Larry Bird
#4 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#5 - Kevin Garnett
#6 - Kevin Durant
#7 - Jerry West
#8 - John Stockton
#9 - Tim Duncan
#10 - Dwyane Wade

HM - Chris Paul ( can't put him in my top 10 cause hes a choker )




sure if its just raw offensive skills guys like nash, curry, kyrie, iverson, maravich, lebron, magic will be up there


but theres one entirely other side of the floor thats played 50% of the time

[Cold soul]

This is my top 5 for most skilled players ever.

1) Kobe
2) Bird
3) Jordan
4) Hakeem
5) Kareem

[bigkingsfan]

Harden is more skilled than anyone on that list.

[tanibanana]

Steve Nash... won two MVP relying mostly on his skills. Not Height, not athleticism and not even popularity.

Remove his skills and he

[kennethgriffen]

yeah i dunno why i put lebron in there. his lack of handles/lack of footwork/lack of post up/lack of ability to drive without needing stiff arms


even his shooting form ( while effective wide open ) is pretty damn ugly



maybe raw skills aren't lebrons thing. but he sure is dominant like when shaq abused guys down low


his only true raw skill is making fancy passes IMO

[Prometheus]

Shooting is the most fundamental, and most important skill in basketball.

Steph Curry is better at shooting than anyone else, ever... and seemingly by a wide margin.

He dominates a league with guys like KD, LeBron, Giannis... absolute freak athlete giants, in the body of a regular, lean, athletic dude. If we're talking just skill, Curry is probably #1





and Kobe

[superduper]

Shooting is the most fundamental, and most important skill in basketball.

Steph Curry is better at shooting than anyone else, ever... and seemingly by a wide margin.

He dominates a league with guys like KD, LeBron, Giannis... absolute freak athlete giants, in the body of a regular, lean, athletic dude. If we're talking just skill, Curry is probably #1





and Kobe

/thread

[3ball]

Best mid-range shooter

Most efficient handle

Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH

Best fadeaway

Best post game for non-big

Best combo leaper ever (goat-level off 1 and 2 legs)


Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)

[superduper]

Best mid-range shooter

Most efficient handle

Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH

Best fadeaway

Best post game outside of Hakeem and Kareem


Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)

Kobe