Does acquiring Love give the Cavs the edge of a healthy Bulls?

[poido123]

6'8 defending 6'3. Just saying.


I've never seen Paul, Deron, Westbrook guarded by opposing teams wingman like Rose was for those playoffs.

Exactly.

If people went back and watched that series, they would know that rose was doing all the creating on offense. Boozer and Noah looked injured.

It wasn't just lebron when lebron guarded him. lebron led rose into team traps very effectively and because bulls didn't have anyone else to punish the trapping style of defense on the perimeter, lebron looked good but it was clearly a team defense which lebron steered him into time and time again forcing bad shots.

[poido123]

Bulls are overrated.

Tell me, what have the Knicks done lately?

[ArbitraryWater]

Doin' everything to not credit 'Bron

Size isn't even an excuse, ever...

6%

[JohnFreeman]

[ArbitraryWater]

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[poido123]

Can you offer some insight instead of posting up troll pics?

How do you think each team can exploit the matchups...

Trolls will be trolls i guess.

[Real14]

Tell me, what have the Knicks done lately?

Took Melo back, which your team couldn't do and 1st round exits that lost to tha damn wizards are all of a sudden contenders? come on man

[poido123]

Took Melo back, which your team couldn't do and 1st round exits that lost to tha damn wizards are all of a sudden contenders? come on man

Bulls will be sure to save their biggest beat down for the Knicks. Just to make sure Melo knows what he missed out on...

Half of our current team and our best player didn't play against wizards

Would you say the same thing if we played our D-League squad, like seriously?

[Real14]

Bulls will be sure to save their biggest beat down for the Knicks. Just to make sure Melo knows what he missed out on...

Half of our current team and our best player didn't play against wizards

Would you say the same thing if we played our D-League squad, like seriously?

Yea right, bulls ain't gonna bust tha knicks ass man . Excuses, excuses How in tha world y'all niguhz get a pass for having injuries but we can't get a pass?

[CHi1PriDe]

Yea right, bulls ain't gonna bust tha knicks ass man . Excuses, excuses How in tha world y'all niguhz get a pass for having injuries but we can't get a pass?

Don't get how you can talk shit about any team when you root for the Knicks. Knicks have been a garbage franchise for half a century now, other than melo and maybe THjr, the Knicks have nobody decent. The bulls were supposed to tank last year and still made the 4th seed while the Knicks couldnt even make the playoffs in a weak ass conference. A lineup of JC, Jr, melo, stat and dalembert ain't scaring no one, how can you even be excited for your team this year?

You guys might be able to squeeze into the playoffs this year because of what happened to Indiana. The bulls added a lot of firepower this off season and TaJ/Noah have gotten a lot better since 2011. Our bench mob can easily beat your starting 5

[Roundball_Rock]

No. Chicago is still better. The Cavs best 3 players would>Chicago's best 3 but the Bulls would have far greater depth. Moreover, the Bulls would have continuity in terms of coaching and the team's system along with returning many of the same players. The Cavs have a coach with zero NBA experience and, under this scenario, the Cavs' two best players would be new additions to the team. Rose, Noah, Butler, Gibson are longtime incumbents. Even though Rose has not seen much action, Rose has been part of the culture and system for years and people like Noah have played with him for a while. Irving will have to learn Love and LeBron. Remember, one reason the 11' Heat underachieved is it took them a year to learn to play together optimally.

The Spurs have demonstrated the importance of good coaching, a good system, depth and continuity. Chicago has all these things in spades; Cleveland does not.

[DMAVS41]

What has he not proven? That he couldn't drag his team as the singular individual offensive player (at 22 years old) past a team with prime Lebron, prime Wade, and prime Bosh with one of the nastiest perimeter defenses we've seen in a long time concentrating all on him? Out of his last 2 healthy years, so pretty much since his breakout year, he's had 1 mediocre playoff series.

During his MVP season when he emerged as a superstar, he put up 28/5/6/3/1 on 53% TS against the Pacers. Then he torched the Hawks for 30/4/10/1/1 on 53% TS..then came his only bad playoff series against, once again, an elite trapping defense that featured arguably the 2 best all-around perimeter players in the world.

And then obviously we saw what happened in 2012, what happened in the 1 game he played that postseason in which he put up a near 23 point triple double. The year his team was essentially a lock to make the ECF again before he went down.

It's pretty meaningless to use 1 bad playoff series against him..because he's shown that he has the game and the mentality to succeed in the playoffs...he's gotten to the conference finals while playing really damn well to get there, that has to count for something. All he's lacked was offensively capable players that can take pressure off of him. Now he has that. While the Cavs have nowhere near the defense those Miami teams had..

edit: not even including his rookie year when he took a great Boston team to 7 in an epic series putting up 20/6/6/1/1 on 53% TS..as a 20 year old. Or when he put up 27/3/7/1 on 50% TS against Lebron's Cavs in his 2nd season.

He hasn't proven exactly what I said.

Over the last 3 years in the playoffs...he's been sub 50% TS in each of them.

I don't think that can be good enough.

Really? This is a controversial opinion? That a shoot first, shoot a lot, pointguard shooting sub 50% TS probably won't be good enough to win the title?

Really? That is what it's come to...we have to pretend like that isn't a serious issue for a guy that has averaged 24 shots a game in the playoffs over that time?

If he plays differently, then we'll see.

But you guys ask a question...you get an honest answer. Rose has not proven he can shoot above 50% TS in the playoffs because he's never done it outside of his rookie year for 7 games...and even then 52.7% TS likely won't get it done either.

[Jameerthefear]

Honestly any team with Lebron can beat the Bulls.

[poido123]

No. Chicago is still better. The Cavs best 3 players would>Chicago's best 3 but the Bulls would have far greater depth. Moreover, the Bulls would have continuity in terms of coaching and the team's system along with returning many of the same players. The Cavs have a coach with zero NBA experience and, under this scenario, the Cavs' two best players would be new additions to the team. Rose, Noah, Butler, Gibson are longtime incumbents. Even though Rose has not seen much action, Rose has been part of the culture and system for years and people like Noah have played with him for a while. Irving will have to learn Love and LeBron. Remember, one reason the 11' Heat underachieved is it took them a year to learn to play together optimally.

The Spurs have demonstrated the importance of good coaching, a good system, depth and continuity. Chicago has all these things in spades; Cleveland does not.

A big 3 has proven to be successful against us, as evidenced by Miami. Yes you're right, it will take a year before the cavs reach their potential, however they might already have enough in talent to beat our team, like miami did in their first year to us.

Big difference now is, our team won't be shutdown by shutting down rose. He now has guys around him who will hit shots and gasol will be dangerous in the post with his passing and scoring.

I agree we still might have the slight edge, but I expect a very close series...