Been watching hoops since 89.. never seen a team with 2 superstars and 1 star

[LBJ 23]

I just hope I don't see any Jordan fans agreeing with OP since not a long time ago there was a thread called Pippen>Wade in which majority of Jordan fans were arguing that Pippen>Wade and Rodman>Bosh. Can't have it both ways.

[FLDFSU]

How in the world does Kobe, Dwight, Pau, and Nash, who was among the lead leaders in APG the year prior, not fit this criteria?

[pauk]

Thinking Wade plays like a superstar right now is extremly benevolent of you 1st of all..... i kindof doubt you have been watching since around 89 though, maybe you watched but were not that observant? Because..........


Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman. Their starting 5 & bench used to actually look like:

Starting 5:
C Laimbeer
PF Mahorn
SF Dantley
SG Dumars
PG Thomas

Bench:
Rodman
Salley
Johnson
Edwards

Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond & Tim Hardaway.

Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Richard Dumas, Cedric Ceballos & Tom Chambers.

Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant & Toni Kukoc.

Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott & Horace Grant.

Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Detlef Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins & Sam Perkins.

Alonzo Mourning, Tim Hardaway & Jamal Mashburn.

Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie Pippen & Charles Barkley.

Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Rik Smits, Dale Davis & Mark Jackson.

Blazers at one point:
Damon Stodamire
Steve Smith
Scottie pippen
Rasheed wallace
Rod Strickland
Aravydis Sabonis
Greg anthony
Bonzi wells
detlef schremf
Shawn Kemp
Dale Davis

Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Antawn Jamison, Antoine Walker & Michael Finley.

Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Glen Rice, Eddie Jones, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Van Exel.

Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, Reggie Miller & Stephen Jackson.

Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Tayshuan Prince & Rasheed Wallace.

Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion & Quentin Richardson.

Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen & Rajon Rondo.

Warriors at one point:
pg. Baron Davis 23ppg
sg. Monta Ellis 20ppg
sf. Stephen Jackson 20ppg
pf. Al Harrigton 20ppg
c. Andris Biedrins 11ppg

bench: Jason Richardson 23ppg

Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming & Ron Artest.

Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol. (Nash/Artest? Bynum? Odom?)


Many candidates and many MUCH better than Miami's "big 3" today.............

[aj1987]

Then explain why Lebron was playing just as bad against the Spurs in 13 through the first 5.75 games? This notion that Lebron was just so much better in 12 and 13 is a joke.

You're so full of shit. 18/18/10 is a bad game? 33/11/4/2/2 is a bad game? 25/6/8/4 is a bas game?

Also, the argument that the Heat were thin and relied too much on Lebron and Wade is bogus. The Heat beat the Bulls in 5 games...backdoor sweeping them in 11 with Wade playing well below his standards in that series.

Bosh: 23/8/1/1/1
LeBron: 26/8/7/2/2
Wade: 19/6/2/2/1
LeBron and the Heat defense shutting down is what won the series for the Heat.

Again, Lebron was doing the same shit against the Spurs. He was well below 50% TS the first 5.75 games....he was at like 42% fg as well. You can't say that 13 Lebron wasn't capable of underperforming. Total myth yet again...

He was at 44% and why are you using an arbitrary as **** 5.75 games shit?
LeBron averaged 18/7/7 in '11. Dude averaged 22/11/7/2/1 over the first 5 games against the Spurs. +4 PPG and +4 RPG. Also, the Spurs were MUCH better than the Mavs defensively.

Oh wait...we have to pretend that an old ass Spurs team with Parker injured and playing horrible is better than the 11 Mavs playing great. LOL

Lets just forget that Green was shooting 60% from the 3 to score 20 points a game or Kawhi was averaging a double-double while playing elite defense or that the Spurs as a team were shooting over 40% from the 3 or that Neal was shooting 47% from the 3 or that Duncan found the fountain of youth and was averaging 20/12. Lets just say TP was injured and it wasn't the Heat's defense or anything. Was he injured when he hit that game winner? Was be injured when he scored 26 on 71% in game 4?

[VIP2000]

Technically, the first Lakers championship had Glen Rice. He was a year or two removed from being a 26ppg scorer, 3X All-Star and All-Star Game MVP.

[unbreakable]

Thinking Wade plays like a superstar right now is extremly benevolent of you 1st of all..... i kindof doubt you have been watching since around 89 though, maybe you watched but were not that observant? Because..........


Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman. Their starting 5 & bench used to actually look like:

Starting 5:
C Laimbeer
PF Mahorn
SF Dantley
SG Dumars
PG Thomas

Bench:
Rodman
Salley
Johnson
Edwards

Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond & Tim Hardaway.

Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Richard Dumas, Cedric Ceballos & Tom Chambers.

Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant & Toni Kukoc.

Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott & Horace Grant.

Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Detlef Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins & Sam Perkins.

Alonzo Mourning, Tim Hardaway & Jamal Mashburn.

Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie Pippen & Charles Barkley.

Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Rik Smits, Dale Davis & Mark Jackson.

Blazers at one point:
Damon Stodamire
Steve Smith
Scottie pippen
Rasheed wallace
Rod Strickland
Aravydis Sabonis
Greg anthony
Bonzi wells
detlef schremf
Shawn Kemp
Dale Davis

Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Antawn Jamison, Antoine Walker & Michael Finley.

Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Glen Rice, Eddie Jones, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Van Exel.

Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, Reggie Miller & Stephen Jackson.

Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Tayshuan Prince & Rasheed Wallace.

Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion & Quentin Richardson.

Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen & Rajon Rondo.

Warriors at one point:
pg. Baron Davis 23ppg
sg. Monta Ellis 20ppg
sf. Stephen Jackson 20ppg
pf. Al Harrigton 20ppg
c. Andris Biedrins 11ppg

bench: Jason Richardson 23ppg

Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming & Ron Artest.

Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol. (Nash/Artest? Bynum? Odom?)


Many candidates and many MUCH better than Miami's "big 3" today.............

100% garbage

[FLDFSU]

Thinking Wade plays like a superstar right now is extremly benevolent of you 1st of all..... i kindof doubt you have been watching since around 89 though, maybe you watched but were not that observant? Because..........


Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman. Their starting 5 & bench used to actually look like:

Starting 5:
C Laimbeer
PF Mahorn
SF Dantley
SG Dumars
PG Thomas

Bench:
Rodman
Salley
Johnson
Edwards

Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond & Tim Hardaway.

Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Richard Dumas, Cedric Ceballos & Tom Chambers.

Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant & Toni Kukoc.

Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott & Horace Grant.

Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Detlef Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins & Sam Perkins.

Alonzo Mourning, Tim Hardaway & Jamal Mashburn.

Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie Pippen & Charles Barkley.

Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Rik Smits, Dale Davis & Mark Jackson.

Blazers at one point:
Damon Stodamire
Steve Smith
Scottie pippen
Rasheed wallace
Rod Strickland
Aravydis Sabonis
Greg anthony
Bonzi wells
detlef schremf
Shawn Kemp
Dale Davis

Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Antawn Jamison, Antoine Walker & Michael Finley.

Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Glen Rice, Eddie Jones, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Van Exel.

Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, Reggie Miller & Stephen Jackson.

Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Tayshuan Prince & Rasheed Wallace.

Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion & Quentin Richardson.

Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen & Rajon Rondo.

Warriors at one point:
pg. Baron Davis 23ppg
sg. Monta Ellis 20ppg
sf. Stephen Jackson 20ppg
pf. Al Harrigton 20ppg
c. Andris Biedrins 11ppg

bench: Jason Richardson 23ppg

Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming & Ron Artest.

Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol. (Nash/Artest? Bynum? Odom?)


Many candidates and many MUCH better than Miami's "big 3" today.............

[iznogood]

Polls, opinions, whatever. LeBron did not have a post game in 2011, Kidd and Barea guarded him at times and he couldn't punish them. Apart from that, he was mentally fragile and zoned out after things didn't go his way.

I agree on 2012 Heat being the better team, but I think the argument about Lebron's post game is vastly overrated in my opinion. It seems like Lebron learnt how to score from the low post in 2012. The truth is Lebron had these same moves that look so superior in the beginning of the 2012 season (mainly the fadeaway and lefty backboard jump hook) years before. You can see Lebron scoring with these moves when he was playing in Cleveland. The difference is Miami started running more plays with him posting up, but as far as I remember this wasn't even a factor in the playoffs because teams would double Lebron so much on the block.

In my opinion 2011 Dallas matched up better against Miami then 2012 OKC. 2012 OKC team was (and still is) very one dimensional team and made almost no adjustments. Led by a bad coach coach as well. Dallas was tactically way better team then OKC, running all sorts of different defensive schemes. Also Heat had no one on their team who could stop Dirk. I don't think Lebron choked that bad, in my opinion it felt a bit like Dwight in 2009, when Lakers used different defense schemes to challenge his ability to read the defense. Miami is also not too good at adjusting and Dallas exposed that in 2011.