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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by rmt
2 of those 3 are MUCH more important than Parker during HALF of the game (the defensive half). And Parker did go 0-10 and the Spurs had the last game of the Finals in hand WITHOUT his help - just saying. Kinda suggests that they could have won without him - just not by the huge margin that they did. Definitely Kwahi was more important than Parker in the Finals - no way the Spurs win without Leonard defending Lebron.
Yah but Parker put the game out of reach when the Heat cut it to 13 early in the 4th (was 20+). Then Parker went basically perfect for the closeout quarter of the Finals. I love how your example for a bad Parker game is 16 pts (more than Duncan in G5).
And what did Kawhi "hold" Lebron to? Amazingly great shooting?
Last edited by ninephive; 11-28-2014 at 10:13 PM.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
And if you're watching the game now, this is vintage Parker. Completely dominating - 13 pts at the beginning of the 2nd. He'll pull off the gas here in a bit though.
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Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by ninephive
And if you're watching the game now, this is vintage Parker. Completely dominating - 13 pts at the beginning of the 2nd. He'll pull off the gas here in a bit though.
Of course, it's the regular season. Parker always dominates in the regular season. It's his crappy playoff performances that's the problem.
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Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Also, Parker was never the best player on any of the Spur championship teams. '99 and '03 were Duncan. '05 was 1A/1B scenario where Duncan and Ginobili were equally important. '07 was Duncan. '14 was pretty much a team effort but if I had to choose the three best players in that playoff run it would be Duncan/Ginobili/Leonard. Parker was pretty horrid outside of those three games against Portland. Got his shit pushed in by Westbrook in the conference finals and got outplayed by Patty Mills in the Finals.
Not to mention Parker's disgustingly awful playoff runs in 2004 and 2006. Dude sucked hard against the Lakers and Mavs. Both were winnable years for the Spurs too.
Last edited by Artillery; 11-29-2014 at 12:09 AM.
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Local High School Star
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Parker been carrying the Spurs these past years. He the one that keep the Spurs going.
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Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by Anaximandro1
Tim Duncan had an elite Usage /Offensive Rating in '05.
Reminder: efficiency decreases as usage increases
Duncan FG% ? He had to deal with Ben Wallace (4 times DPOY)/Sheed Wallace/McDyess in the finals.
Duncan led the Spurs in most statistical categories. Manu did his damage with the second unit ... different roles, but they both played very well.
Parker is the 3rd most valuable Spur in the Duncan era.
Win Shares works well for large samples.
Statistical anomalies are common among small samples (in the playoffs, Drexler led the 1994-95 Rockets in WS, Manu led the 2004-05 Spurs in WS, Gasol led the 2009-10 Lakers in WS ... Hakeem,Duncan and Kobe were the best players on those teams)
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Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Tony was better 10/11, 12/13, 13/14 and is it right now. but not all-time.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by Artillery
Also, Parker was never the best player on any of the Spur championship teams. '99 and '03 were Duncan. '05 was 1A/1B scenario where Duncan and Ginobili were equally important. '07 was Duncan. '14 was pretty much a team effort but if I had to choose the three best players in that playoff run it would be Duncan/Ginobili/Leonard. Parker was pretty horrid outside of those three games against Portland. Got his shit pushed in by Westbrook in the conference finals and got outplayed by Patty Mills in the Finals.
Not to mention Parker's disgustingly awful playoff runs in 2004 and 2006. Dude sucked hard against the Lakers and Mavs. Both were winnable years for the Spurs too.
If you say Duncan was the best player on the Spurs in '07, how in the world can you not say Parker was the best player on the Spurs in '14?
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Jabari has really impressed in Milw recently
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sahelanthropus
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Awful thread. Kobe is a god compared to Parker.
Parker is overrated in general. Most of the hype is intended to diminish Duncan in some way, transparent as hell.
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Buck Dynasty
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by houston
Parker been carrying the Spurs these past years. He the one that keep the Spurs going.
You spelled Popovich wrong.
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The Beast In Me
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
Originally Posted by Milbuck
You spelled Popovich wrong.
100% win record without him this year, ****boii.
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Titles are overrated
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
To people stupid enough to equate rings and talent I suppose.
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
if this was Parker>lebron thread would have been closed days ago
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Titles are overrated
Re: Is there a case for Parker over Kobe?
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