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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Why are people forgetting how good Love is?

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    forgot him...yeah top 5...
    So he's a top 5 PF in the West, has injury concerns, is strictly a one way player, won't commit to any team for the longterm, and thats better than hanging onto Andrew Wiggins (on a cheap 4 year deal) who has through the roof potential and could end up being a 2nd or even 1st option on a championship team?

    Sorry pal, I just don't see the logic here.

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    op is so ****ing scared hes trying to convince himself that the cavs getting Love will hurt them

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    So he's a top 5 PF in the West, has injury concerns, is strictly a one way player and won't commit to any team for the longterm, and thats better than hanging onto Andrew Wiggins (on a cheap 4 year deal) who has through the roof potential and could end up being a 2nd or even 1st option on a championship team?

    Sorry pal, I just don't see the logic here.
    - What injury concerns? As far as I know he has no lingering injuries at the moment..

    - I said top 5 in the league...i'd probably take him over Blake on some teams (like the clippers)

    - He's not "strictly a 1-way player" he's one of the best rebounders in the league.

    - cheap 4 year deals don't matter when you're operating as a capped out team like the Cavs will be next year when irving's extension kicks in

    - Demar Derozan is not a 1st or 2nd option on a title team... sorry

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    You think Wiggins' peak is going to be DeMar DeRozan?



    And congrats, he swallows up rebounds. Still doesn't play defense.

    Also, this league basically = West. You list the best talent in the league, you're basically listing all guys from the West and LeBron.

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnFreeman
    Why are people forgetting how good Love is?
    I was going to say that he's basically the Harden of PF's, but he's less durable and can't even get a team INTO the playoffs, so I'm not sure what to say about him

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    I was going to say that he's basically the Harden of PF's, but he's less durable and can't even get a team INTO the playoffs, so I'm not sure what to say about him
    That Timberwolves team sucks

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    You think Wiggins' peak is going to be DeMar DeRozan?



    And congrats, he swallows up rebounds. Still doesn't play defense.

    Also, this league basically = West. You list the best talent in the league, you're basically listing all guys from the West and LeBron.
    No...actually you think that

    And he's not that bad on defense...factoring in defensive rebounding i'd say he's a net zero on that end...not bad, not good..people act like he's james harden or something

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnFreeman
    That Timberwolves team sucks
    Dude couldn't get Rubio, Martin, Pekovic, Brewer even into the playoffs as an 8th seed and yall want to call him a star

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    No...actually you think that

    And he's not that bad on defense...factoring in defensive rebounding i'd say he's a net zero on that end...not bad, not good..people act like he's james harden or something
    So you trust my opinion from months ago after Wiggins worst game more than actual NBA talent evaluators?



    And yes, Love is horrid at defense. Queue to the hundreds of clips of him choosing to box out his man for a possible rebound rather than actually play help defense.

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    Dude couldn't get Rubio, Martin, Pekovic, Brewer even into the playoffs as an 8th seed and yall want to call him a star
    Melo didn't make the playoffs playing in an all-time bad conference...is he not a star?

    Wolves in the east would be like the 3rd-6th best team

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    Dude couldn't get Rubio, Martin, Pekovic, Brewer even into the playoffs as an 8th seed and yall want to call him a star
    Those names are suppose to mean something? Rubio can't even shoot

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    So you trust my opinion from months ago after Wiggins worst game more than actual NBA talent evaluators?



    And yes, Love is horrid at defense. Queue to the hundreds of clips of him choosing to box out his man for a possible rebound rather than actually play help defense.

    No i don't....I'm just pointing out the logical inconsistency of you criticizing them for making this trade while at the same time saying Wiggins is "DeMar DeRozan 2.0"....personally i think he ends up something like Paul George...

    No Love is not horrid...there is no proof that he is....statistically he actually grades out positively...

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    Wolves in the east would be like the 3rd-6th best team
    And that means what, exactly?

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    Default Re: Wiggins becomes a SUPERSTAR, Love and LeBron leave in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by russwest0
    And that means what, exactly?
    they would be in the playoffs and meet your requirement of needing to make the playoffs to be considered a star...

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