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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    the guy can't jump over a phone book off two feet.


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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    I've known since LeBron's first month in the league that he jumped higher than Jordan, it has always been obvious.

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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

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    lebron can't jump off a phone book off two legs as you can see - guys have to post wide open dunks and freiking blocks to show Lebron not looking super-awkward and clumsy off two legs.












    i mean... :... sheer goat-level denial in this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    ok, we'll take your word for it...

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    i mean... :... sheer goat-level denial in this thread...

    lebron can't jump off a phone book off two legs as you can see - guys have to post wide open dunks and freiking blocks to show Lebron not looking super-awkward and like a fool off two legs.
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    You're asking for a warning.

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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    Example #2 of Lebron's clumsiness when he has no room for a run-up to get momentum, and instead has to go straight up...

    Compare it to Jordan's goat vertical explosiveness.





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    Example #3 of Lebron's clumsiness when he has no room for a run-up to get momentum, and instead has to go straight up...

    Compare it to Jordan's goat vertical explosiveness.





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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

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    Are posters really trying to say that ALL of the Jordan pics are bad angles?

    That's almost impossible, and simply one of the most obvious denials i've ever seen.




    UPDATED: Pictures of Jordan with Head At or Above Rim


    http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...d3ec665aca.jpg - head clearly at rim, not sure about angle tho

    http://thebestten.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=595&h=801 - not at peak of jump; looks 1-2 inch below rim

    http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...f9ed25_lg.jpeg - he's backwards to rim & eventually ducks head to avoid rim - 43 inches

    http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps36f2be72.jpg - great angle, shoulder very close to rim, head is bent sideways but would be over rim if straight

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...JUWB-ASvtcj-DJ - head looks 1-2 inches over rim.. 43-44 inches

    http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps94088237.png - FT line dunk - head 1 inch over rim - 43 inches.

    http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/...d5a253d6f.jpeg - bad angle.

    http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/...7c3ed3316.jpeg - best angle of them all - his eyes clear the rim easily and actually it looks like his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim... 46 inches or more.
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    I think people are forgetting the selection bias again Jordan since there were fewer cameras in the Jordan era. Especially the 80's with the grainy as f**know shots. This means there is no hd or enough shots or good angles of Jordans vertical in his athletic prime. I would say he at the minimum had 45 or 46 inches out of high school or rookie seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/...7c3ed3316.jpeg - best angle of them all - his eyes clear the rim easily and actually it looks like his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim... 46 inches or more.
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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    Does anyone know if it's with or without PED's?

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    So Jordan actually jumps higher:

    MICHAEL JORDAN'S VERTICAL JUMP
    Krugh _l LeVeau B
    University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC
    PURPOSE The purpose of this study, which was part of an advanced
    master's motion analysis class project in 1983, was to determine Michael Jordan's maximum vertical jump.
    SUBJEa Michael Jordan
    METHODS: Surface markers: Left lateral malleolus, left femoral epicondyle, left greater trochanter, left pelvic crest and right distal phalanges of digits 2 and 3 of the hand.
    Tasks (in order) were:
    Vertical reach while standing flat-footed-baseline
    Vertical reach during a jump from standing
    Vertical reach during a jump from running
    Vertical reach during a 1-hand dunk
    Vertical reach during a 2-hand dunk
    All tasks except baseline vertical reach were done with free swing of
    the upper limb(s). Equipment and instrumentation: Camera, lighting, markers, meter stick, and standard basketball. Location: Carmichael Gymnasium, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
    DATA ANALYSIS: Distance measurements were analyzed by comparison to a meter stick in view of the camera. Displacement measure
    ments of reach (pelvis) involved measurement of vertical height to
    the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) during a task minus vertical height
    to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) during bilateral flat-footed
    stance. Velocity measurements were analyzed by dividing vertical
    height distance traveled divided by time taken for the tasks. A
    VanGuard Motion Analyzer was used to analyze motion frame by
    frame.

    RESULTS: Maximum measurements:
    Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in.
    Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in.
    Vertical reach displacement during a jump 35.93 in.
    from standing
    Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a 38.07 in.
    jump from running
    Vertical velocity during a jump from running 6500.00"/sec
    Vertical reach displacement during a jump 45.76 in.
    from running
    Vertical reach displacement during 41.70 in.
    a 1-hand dunk
    Vertical reach displacement during 40.93 in.
    a 2-hand dunk


    During the vertical reach from standing, push from the floor was
    with both feet. During the vertical reach during a jump from running, push from the floor was with oncfoot and momentum of the
    body, two upper limbs, and one lower limb was used to the maximum.
    CONCLUSION/CLJNICAL RELEVAN=. Maximum displacement
    for vertical reach was achieved with a jump from a running start, a
    2-hand dunk, a 1-hand dunk, and a jump from standing, respectively.
    This is consistent with use of momentum of the body and limbs to
    assist with the vertical displacement. Michael Jordan's vertical jump
    ability during several tasks provides a standard with which athletic
    achievement by others can be compared.
    https://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.251...t.1999.29.1.A1

    Although his running vert being 10 inches higher than his standing vert is...suspect.

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    [COLOR="DarkRed"]There is no video of Dr. J or Lebron getting their head at rim off two legs, and no video of Dominique getting his head at rim off one leg... Only Jordan has documented footage of him getting his head at rim off both one AND two legs.[/COLOR]

    one leg: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=62
    two legs: https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JhuR...D3fG/giphy.gif



    Therefore, he's the greatest leaper of all time, out of the players that matter.. Jordan's superior leaping versatility helps explain his goat scoring skill and unstoppableness.

    (again, this is out of the players that matter - so aside from gerald green and a couple other dunk specialists - but tbh, i've only seen gerald green get his head at rim off two legs, and james white only off one leg)

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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Peak 48" confirmed




    Right now its 41"-42"


    FYI Dwight Howards MAX vert was only 38", Derrick Rose's max was only 40"

    Heck Blake Griffin only has a 37" vert



    the best cheset-to-chest dunker of all time

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta


    LeBron's 6'8 right?

    So if his head is 6-7 inches over the 10 foot rim then thats 46-47 inches right?

    my bad just an inch shorter than 48"
    damn

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    Default Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    damn
    ^^^ that was a 1 foot leap...

    Only Jordan has documented footage of him getting his head at rim off both one AND two legs.

    one leg..... http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=62

    two legs..... https://giphy.com/gifs/l2JhuRyEvLxbgD3fG

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