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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Tex Winter said that the League changed the rules so Counts had to actually shoot his freethrows instead of dunking them like he did in high school.
Damn, didn't know that!
Wasn't he also that guy who kicked a mountain lion's butt?
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.
It should also be noted those guys were taller than their listed heights, since they measured without shoes on back in the day....
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.
Very bad example dude. Shaq played in the greatest center era in NBA history.... the 90's and even early 00's. Hakeem, Robinson, Mutumbo, Smits, Daughtery, Wallace, Sabonis, Ewing, Zo etc were all in their prime... list goes on. The average center of the 90's would be a starting center today most likely.
Even if Wilt was only two or three inches taller than these players on average.. him outweighing them by 70+ pounds on average is a HUGE advantage.
Last edited by Clippersfan86; 02-15-2012 at 04:21 PM.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Just because a dude is tall doesn't mean he isn't a scrub...
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs
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It should be noted that Kareem Abdul Jabbar was listed at 7'2" 225 pounds by basketball-reference.com......listed at 267 pounds on NBA.com website....the sources aren't reliable by any means.
Besides, Kareem weight-wise was lighter, yet is still 20 times better than any center today....SIZE has no argument here.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Very bad example dude. Shaq played in the greatest center era in NBA history.... the 90's and even early 00's. Hakeem, Robinson, Mutumbo, Smits, Daughtery, Wallace, Sabonis, Ewing, Zo etc were all in their prime... list goes on. The average center of the 90's would be a starting center today most likely.
Even if Wilt was only two or three inches taller than these players on average.. him outweighing them by 70+ pounds on average is a HUGE advantage.
I stated the span that Shaq won his rings. Can you name an all-time great center that in his prime from 2000-06 span?
Do you see what I'm trying to show? You can not discredit a player for his era. You can a make judgement about it and you shape your list based on that. But acting like this?
Last edited by Odinn; 02-15-2012 at 04:31 PM.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
All those guys were scrubs minus Bellamy and Russell.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.
I added the first one
All the others are below 230 or under 7'
Swede Halbrook only played 2 seasons and averaged 6.6 RPG
Last edited by Deuce Bigalow; 02-15-2012 at 04:30 PM.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
I stated the span that Shaq won his rings. Can you name a all-time great center that in his prime from 2000-06 span?
Ming, Wallace, Big Z, Sabonis, Camby, Mutumbo, Ratliff, Divac were all good centers in 2000-2006. Even in 00-06 the center crop was superior to the 60's.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Odinn
... Ming and Wallace are two of the best centers ever. Shaq said he considers Yao a top 5 center of all time. Wallace is arguably a top 5 defender and rebounder all time. Then a couple others I mentioned are HOFers. Reality is Wilt had nobody that could even try to body him up, Shaq did.
Sabonis, Wallace and Yao all had their success against Shaq in the paint at some point or another.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Prime Bill Russell in todays league is playing for the D-league
The stupid, IT BURNS!!!!
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
... Ming and Wallace are two of the best centers ever. Shaq said he considers Yao a top 5 center of all time. Wallace is arguably a top 5 defender and rebounder all time. Then a couple others I mentioned are HOFers. Reality is Wilt had nobody that could even try to body him up, Shaq did.
Sabonis, Wallace and Yao all had their success against Shaq in the paint at some point or another.
If you basing "body up" on weight.....wasn't Shaq over 50 pounds heavier than any center around during his years with the Lakers?? Being able to name only 2 guys within 50 pounds of prime Shaq doesn't help your case.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
Originally Posted by bwink23
If you basing "body up" on weight.....wasn't Shaq over 50 pounds heavier than any center around during his years with the Lakers?? Being able to name only 2 guys within 50 pounds of prime Shaq doesn't help your case.
Actually I wasn't going by size. I was naming two elite centers from the 2000-2006 era. In terms of size... Sabonis, Z, Smits, Yao and a few others had the bulk to match Shaq... something Wilt didn't face in his era.
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