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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Dro
That's crazy and this post is so overlooked....Everyone knew Kobe would break the offense at some point...You can't say that about other greats honestly that he is compared to...Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, Wade, etc...They get theirs in the flow of the offense or in crunch time when they HAVE to. They didn't just get theirs by breaking the offense whenever they chose to.
No, Lebron rather fold when the going gets tough.
All this bullshit people talk about Kobe and 04, yet he was the sole reason we even won a single game. Not saying he played great, but there are pros and cons alike he was responsible for in that series.
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Doomguy
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Da Hammer
If we are being serious lol no trolling then you would see that Kobe actually took those shots really well considering he was sucker punched and would have easily wrecked Childs if they weren't seperated. But the other poster is crazy in saying that Kobe would wreck Shaq
he didn't really get hit hard.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Dude, Kobe was what 19?, 20?, 21? How many of us are the epitome of maturity at that age? Shaq was like 26 going on thirty when he came to the Lakers instantly picking on this 18 yr old kid, mind you Kobe became a better player for it, tougher, mentally psychotic, sometimes to the detriment of his Team, but after taking Shaq's shit for 8 years , there was no one who was gonna push Kobe around which kinda shaped his attitude moving forward with the Lakers. No nonsense after so many years playing in Shaq's circus.
It wasn't all bad, Kobe admitted most recently in his interview with NBA tv that he learned a lot from Shaq.
Well like I said, all what happened benefited Kobe more. The end justified the means.
I think what kept them together was they keep winning.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Rooster
Well like I said, all what happened benefited Kobe more. The end justified the means.
I think what kept them together was they keep winning.
Let's be honest, if Colorado doesn't happen, they all stick together for another year at least. Kobe and Shaq were still a great duo and they had the right roster, just not enough experience together and the off the court stuff distracted their games.
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NBA Legend
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Dro
That's crazy and this post is so overlooked....Everyone knew Kobe would break the offense at some point...You can't say that about other greats honestly that he is compared to...Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, Wade, etc...They get theirs in the flow of the offense or in crunch time when they HAVE to. They didn't just get theirs by breaking the offense whenever they chose to.
Yeah, and in LeBron's case, turning full blown Casper the ghost. You can't say that about any of the other greats. Not even Wilt.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Yeah, and in LeBron's case, turning full blown Casper the ghost. You can't say that about any of the other greats. Not even Wilt.
Yes you can.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Yeah, and in LeBron's case, turning full blown Casper the ghost. I don't even think you can say that about any of the other greats. Not even Wilt.
Didn't Magic earn himself the nickname Tragic for his refusal to take the last second shots in MULTIPLE games in the finals, a finals they were favored in and lost?
Wilt 1969 been well covered...
but the opponent booking on these guys to ruin their chance before the series? wow
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NBA Legend
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Didn't Magic earn himself the nickname Tragic for his refusal to take the last second shots in MULTIPLE games in the finals, a finals they were favored in and lost?
Wilt 1969 been well covered...
but the opponent booking on these guys to ruin their chance before the series? wow
The inception of "Tragic" was for his choking against Boston, not for completely disappearing like LeBron.
Wilt had his share of chokes. Going ghost like LeBron? He's one of a kind in that regard. Call him casper
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Let's be honest, if Colorado doesn't happen, they all stick together for another year at least. Kobe and Shaq were still a great duo and they had the right roster, just not enough experience together and the off the court stuff distracted their games.
If they won it then definitely becauses winning cures everything. But if they lost like what happened , I doubt it. Kobe and Shaq have been beefing even before the Colorado incident. Kobe was gonna be a free agent and no way he'll stick around without the winning part. He has too big of an ego to go through that BS.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
No, Lebron rather fold when the going gets tough.
All this bullshit people talk about Kobe and 04, yet he was the sole reason we even won a single game. Not saying he played great, but there are pros and cons alike he was responsible for in that series.
Same hate crap. It's an oxymoron at best. When Lakers won it, they all want to give credit to Shaq and when they lost, put the blame on Kobe. So the only conclusion was Kobe has to play well for the Lakers to win it. The truth is even a role player like Horry can cost the Lakers chances like when he played like crap in 2003 against the Spurs.
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Devin Booker MVP
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Rooster
Same hate crap. It's an oxymoron at best. When Lakers won it, they all want to give credit to Shaq and when they lost, put the blame on Kobe. So the only conclusion was Kobe has to play well for the Lakers to win it. The truth is even a role player like Horry can cost the Lakers chances like when he played like crap in 2003 against the Spurs.
Horry was literally only good for rebounding and two key shots a year in the post season, clutch ass shots mind you , but yea big shot Rob made a career of doing the least all season and coming up big at the most crucial point in a series.
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NBA Legend
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Horry was literally only good for rebounding and two key shots a year in the post season, clutch ass shots mind you , but yea big shot Rob made a career of doing the least all season and coming up big at the most crucial point in a series.
Kobe's Brickhouse >>> Casper the friendly ghost, and I by friendly, I mean letting a role player outperform you.
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Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by Prime_Shaq
Alpha
Shaq is not a leader of men.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Shaq allegedly threatened to 'murder' Kobe Bryant in 2004
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Kobe's Brickhouse >>> Casper the friendly ghost, and I by friendly, I mean letting a role player outperform you.
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